Quote from: S on February 13, 2025, 11:43:17For sure, WoA has 0 chance. They've had 10 years now and a multi trillion dollar company behind them. It's clear where their motives lie.
However, considering just how unpopular windows is getting to the general public, I don't think this is the end of arm for desktop.
It could still potentially pave the way / give rise for Arm taking off on desktop Linux, given Microsoft's continued fumbling.
Quote from: neverUStech on January 29, 2025, 20:12:40tell me when did the US compensate China for inventing paper, writing, gunpowder, and the compass, or printing? and please remember literally all of those things were precursors to modern technology and innovations in computing or helped create their respective successors.
Quote from: LOL on February 02, 2025, 16:35:47If you want proper ARM, get a Mac or Macbook.
x86 will go the way of the dinosaur, everything will be emulated, while Windows have to make do with what Qualcomm or Microsoft/Samsung offers.
Macs are better for work anyway. Keep a Windows x86 machine for gaming if that's what you want.
Quote from: indy on January 30, 2025, 17:29:21Quote from: opckieran on January 30, 2025, 16:36:12Quote from: neverUStech on January 29, 2025, 20:12:40tell me when did the US compensate China for inventing paper, writing, gunpowder, and the compass, or printing? and please remember literally all of those things were precursors to modern technology and innovations in computing or helped create their respective successors.
Those patents have long expired ;) I'm sure China was well-compensated for their technological contributions throughout human history through increased trade. (And if you have to have to go back hundreds or thousands of years, I don't have to explain how paper-thin that makes your argument.) It's no excuse for China to start ripping off other countries today.
Copying Is Not Theft
Quote from: Worgarthe on January 31, 2025, 00:51:47Quote from: Value arb on January 29, 2025, 17:41:10Mmm, but when OpenAI is blatantly stealing then it's all good, right? That's pRoGrEsS. When someone steals from them - oh the evil thieves 😱Quote from: Hunter2020 on January 29, 2025, 03:54:49No thanks. I'm fed up with Windows post version 8.1. I have 7 new Windows 7/8.1 capable/era mini-PCs stored up in my closet to last the "tech outage" until Huawei or Xiaomi unveils custom PC OS running on self made non-Intel non-Qualcomms chipsets. If China's Deepseek has proven superior to ChatGPT in terms of resource usage, so too will the PC OSes from Xiaomi and Huawei!
Your opinion on the DeepSeek matter really depends on what kind of country you think China is. Nothing more needs to be said.
P.S: Enjoy the tariffs, sanctions and more fun coming soon.
Microsoft caught DeepSeek downloading massive amounts of data from OpenAIs dev API, they aren't superior, they stole it.
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Quote from: Value arb on January 29, 2025, 17:41:10Mmm, but when OpenAI is blatantly stealing then it's all good, right? That's pRoGrEsS. When someone steals from them - oh the evil thieves 😱Quote from: Hunter2020 on January 29, 2025, 03:54:49No thanks. I'm fed up with Windows post version 8.1. I have 7 new Windows 7/8.1 capable/era mini-PCs stored up in my closet to last the "tech outage" until Huawei or Xiaomi unveils custom PC OS running on self made non-Intel non-Qualcomms chipsets. If China's Deepseek has proven superior to ChatGPT in terms of resource usage, so too will the PC OSes from Xiaomi and Huawei!
Microsoft caught DeepSeek downloading massive amounts of data from OpenAIs dev API, they aren't superior, they stole it.
Quote from: Value arb on January 29, 2025, 17:41:10Microsoft caught DeepSeek downloading massive amounts of data from OpenAIs dev API, they aren't superior, they stole it.Who cares? First, no statement from the American government or companies adjacent to them can be trusted, as """current events""" over the past few years have shown us time and time again. Second, it's well known the chinese think it's normal to lie, steal and cheat to get ahead. Of course they would have stolen it if they could. So even if it's true, the only thing that matters to me is the final result for the end user. A cheaper, faster, better and OPEN model is objectively better for the end user. All the "tech corporations" and their cronies in the US government and 3 letter agencies can... [this statement would likely be too crass for the forum rules, so it will be omitted]
Quote from: opckieran on January 30, 2025, 16:36:12Quote from: neverUStech on January 29, 2025, 20:12:40tell me when did the US compensate China for inventing paper, writing, gunpowder, and the compass, or printing? and please remember literally all of those things were precursors to modern technology and innovations in computing or helped create their respective successors.
Those patents have long expired ;) I'm sure China was well-compensated for their technological contributions throughout human history through increased trade. (And if you have to have to go back hundreds or thousands of years, I don't have to explain how paper-thin that makes your argument.) It's no excuse for China to start ripping off other countries today.
Quote from: neverUStech on January 29, 2025, 20:12:40tell me when did the US compensate China for inventing paper, writing, gunpowder, and the compass, or printing? and please remember literally all of those things were precursors to modern technology and innovations in computing or helped create their respective successors.
QuoteA Chinese corporation stealing technology from a Western Country? This is completely unprecedented!
Quote from: The Werewolf on January 29, 2025, 02:18:11Are there people who need 24hr battery life in a laptop the thickness of a sheet of paper that weighs about the same as a sheet of paper? I'm sure they exist, but I'm also sure that's pretty rare.
Quote from: opckieran on January 29, 2025, 18:31:41tell me when did the US compensate China for inventing paper, writing, gunpowder, and the compass, or printing? and please remember literally all of those things were precursors to modern technology and innovations in computing or helped create their respective successors.Quote from: Value arb on January 29, 2025, 17:41:10Quote from: Hunter2020 on January 29, 2025, 03:54:49No thanks. I'm fed up with Windows post version 8.1. I have 7 new Windows 7/8.1 capable/era mini-PCs stored up in my closet to last the "tech outage" until Huawei or Xiaomi unveils custom PC OS running on self made non-Intel non-Qualcomms chipsets. If China's Deepseek has proven superior to ChatGPT in terms of resource usage, so too will the PC OSes from Xiaomi and Huawei!
Microsoft caught DeepSeek downloading massive amounts of data from OpenAIs dev API, they aren't superior, they stole it.
A Chinese corporation stealing technology from a Western Country? This is completely unprecedented!
Quote from: Value arb on January 29, 2025, 17:41:10this isn't true at all. I wouldn't believe the US-military loving and data privacy snake Microsoft as far as I could throw them. you do realize every US tech company is an arm of the USDoD and US State Department right?Quote from: Hunter2020 on January 29, 2025, 03:54:49No thanks. I'm fed up with Windows post version 8.1. I have 7 new Windows 7/8.1 capable/era mini-PCs stored up in my closet to last the "tech outage" until Huawei or Xiaomi unveils custom PC OS running on self made non-Intel non-Qualcomms chipsets. If China's Deepseek has proven superior to ChatGPT in terms of resource usage, so too will the PC OSes from Xiaomi and Huawei!
Microsoft caught DeepSeek downloading massive amounts of data from OpenAIs dev API, they aren't superior, they stole it.