Quote from: Destiny on January 29, 2025, 09:57:43Its not lenovo that is the problem its AMD processors that are fund of over heating even on hp laptops. My last hp with overheat often and its mother board eventually got burnt it was using amd processor.

if your last hp overheated, then its a hp design issue, just like their hinges being total horse crap
my amd ryzen based huewai matebook d 14 laptop has been running just fine without overheating for years, but it also does help to clean out the dust/dirt once in awhile

the lastest gen ryzen seem to be pretty good in the power efficiently department, far outclassing intel, its such a shame that they (lenovo, hp, others) always make amd look worse by using worse components where alot of things can be reused....

Its not lenovo that is the problem its AMD processors that are fund of over heating even on hp laptops. My last hp with overheat often and its mother board eventually got burnt it was using amd processor.

I will try avoid well built Lenovo laptop cause unpleasant experience in this brand.
Nag-ware, Bluetooth constant unsync until reboot. BTW, the laptop CMOS setting lag of menu customizable power setting offset the crippled new Windows OS display power setting.

Quote from: EVO on January 27, 2025, 01:58:00Intel spent over a decade building relationships with OEMs where they would assist with the design process of these laptops.

This is a fact.
But whether AMD can integrate into this direction is a question. While they are satisfied with the fact that they take income from "second place after Intel" on the quality of the assembly of laptops.

Glad to see the new ARM era bringing more competition.

Yeah, it's a huge conspiracy against AMD, Intel is behind it. It is not to blame AMD for simply not producing enough chips so all major OEMs could properly use them and have them in stock immediately. Actually hold up, it is also Intel bribing AMD to produce low quantities. Evil Intel, controling the planet.

They all do this!
Lenovo stopped making the Slim 7 AMD variant we only get the Slim5 or heavy Pro

MSI creator amd is stuck with soldered 32gb ram while intel is not.

Asus Proart studiobook 2023 version had intel and a 120hz screen, 2024 has an amd and 60hz 

This has always been Intel's real strength in the laptop market. Direct bribes have not been the move since they got hit with lawsuits across the globe. Now it's a more direct partnership approach that effectively works the same. Since 11th Gen, they have just not been competitive in terms of performance per watt compared to AMD but Intel spent over a decade building relationships with OEMs where they would assist with the design process of these laptops. It's why there's so many Intel exclusive models. The real volume is in the laptop market and they invested heavily into it to get OEMs practically dependent on them for the design assistance. Now that Intel is falling apart, at least in the eyes of investors, I'm curious to see if they'll continue with these co-development programs. As long as these programs continue, AMD will continue to struggle in the laptop market.

I posted something similar in the amd version's review.

I normally buy the amd variant for better consistent performance and battery life but this time around I went with intel for the reasons outlined above.

The choice was so obvious. Better chassis, proper thermals, larger wide color gamut IPS display with none of the OLED concerns, bigger battery with better battery life, etc.

All around a superior machine this cycle.

Suprised Lenovo created such a disparity.

I don't think a manufacturer would make it's own product powered by one chip UNATTRACTIVE unless it's getting handsomely compensated by a RIVAL chip manufacturer, SOMEONE it seems to favor. This is a COMMON TREND in the PC industry in which "I" ALWAYS seems to be UNJUSTLY favored over "A" even when "A" seems to be the BETTER CHOICE. It's DISGUSTING!!!