Intriguing product, especially for typists, but it is a surprisingly terrible value. Even with the premium of low economies of scale manufacturing, $1000 is a lot. You can get n100 laptops with a mechanical keyboard for $500.

There's some potential for modding maybe. The kailh choc switches could be replaced with sunsets or the Ambients for silent typing. The board could be replaced with something else entirely. Maybe a risc-v board could be modded to fit.

All in all, it's a product that doesn't fit the market needs enough to exist. They should try again.

I get that the audience for this is different than the framework audience, but how could you possibly have that hardware? And software that it ships with and charge that much for it, that is the most wild thing i've heard this year so far.

The framework laptop itself is less than that, for way better specs. It's completely baffling like I just, I was thinking like it would probably be like eight hundred dollars.

The dual screen lenovo 9i ridiculous thing costs barely more than this does.

I get that the argument they try to make is "well, it costs more, because you'll just replace the parts, so you'll end up saving money in the long run."

 firstly, the chipset is not very like time durable. In this case, it's already outdated. So soon enough, it's gonna be really outdated, and if you're only using it for  troubleshooting and stuff like that then you're probably never gonna replace any of the parts anyway, because you're not going to be taxing it ever and you're not going to save a bunch of stuff on it.

And secondly, that argument basically just admits that the premium pricing on it is completely arbitrary, and it doesn't have to cost that much. It's just yeah, the team trying to make more money off of each one

But when your computer is this close to being one hundred percent diy, you just don't have the value proposition that framework has, and if people are just gonna buy open hardware parts.... you're just a reseller

So you're not really selling a computer and a bunch of modules, you're just selling a case and then a convenient way to bundle that at least the first time

A thousand bucks for 16/256 with rk3588? Crazy!

Quote from: A on December 31, 2024, 15:44:55They spent too much effort on the useless removable gpu when egpu was a much better option.

I'm starting to think egpu proponents are the most delusional creatures in the laptop space.

"this removable and upgradable GPU module is dumb why not lug around a egpu dock and all the cables it needs instead??????"

Utter ridiculousness.

Also the rest of this post is not founded in reality either.

Looks interesting, but the RAM is soldered.

One of the issues of Framework is that while it is in theory modular, in reality Framework supports very little actual modules. Their idea is "let the community make it", but without some initial support that is a tall order. They spent too much effort on the useless removable gpu when egpu was a much better option.

So regardless, more competition would be nice.