Quote from: GeorgeS on December 12, 2024, 23:07:45"and a Radeon 860M iGPU. The Strix Halo products will likely carry the Ryzen AI Max branding, and feature an absolute powerhouse of an iGPU that trades blows with the RTX 4060"

Umm... don't you mean "GTX1050?? (or maybe the GTX1060?)

On what Planet does a iGPU 'trade blows' with a current gen dGPU? (even IF it is a mobile one?)

Over hype much?

Agreed. I own a beelink ser9 that have the higher end strix ai 9 370.

Its the best IGPU I ever seen but no its not a 4060. It more in between a 1650/1660 and a 2060 but include very advanced AI core making it able to do thing much newer GPU do like raytracing, advanced AI upscaling and even frame gen.

I guess with frame gen on it close to a 4060 that do not use frame gen or dlss.

Its also much faster than the ai 350 ryzen 7 this article refer to.

Got 3300 single core and over 22000 multi core on it.

Its a very fast and efficient APU.

Quote from: anan on December 13, 2024, 20:49:22I am beginning to think that these articles are intentionally written so poorly in order to gather people to thrash them. As in they are trying to drum up engagement.

That is what I am wondering since notebook check writes genuinely good articles from time to time. This article is just confusing

What has Strix Halo got to do with the kraken series? Kraken is a basic refresh of the phoenix lineup of AMD.

Also how does it thrash it and slightly beat it? It is simply confusing and misleading.

Lastly, Strix halo by the name is a halo product meant to compete with the apple M series. It is basically a consumer mobile APU containing 40 CUs and a large memory bus that can possibly trade blows with the RTX 4060 (according to leaks). So comparing or even mentioning it here seems misleading since the price and class of the kraken is incomparable to the halo lineup.

Quote from: GeorgeS on December 15, 2024, 02:27:03

Quote from: AGentleMetalWave on December 12, 2024, 23:21:05GeorgeS: The true Strix Halo product is actually rumored to be around the mobile 4060 performance, but it will be very different to this AI 7 350 chip, which belongs to Krackan Point. I don't know why Strix Halo is mentioned in the article at all

Are the "rumors" from the same sources that claimed the PS5-Pro was going to be 'trading blows' with 4070's??? LOL!!!

While surely AMD may at some point release dedicated mobile GPU's the CURRENT generation iGPU's can barely 'trade blows' with +6yo dedicated mobile GPU's.

The likelyhood of a current generation iGPU keeping up with a current generation mobile dGPU just ain't going to happen.

Just a bunch of hype and wishful thinking.

So far, geekbench leaks say about 3050 Mobile performance in terms of vulkan. Maybe with some driver improvements they can get it to 4050 Mobile. Maybe in OpenCL it can match a 4060 with help of NPU

People need to relax. It's not like you'll be able to purchase it anytime soon at a reasonable price.

I can already purchase a ultra 7 258v Lenovo laptop 32GB with 1TB for 1000 (possibly lower if other discounts are stacked) where I'm at.

Lunar lake literally just launched 2 months ago. Strix point launched 6 months ago, prices are 1600 for less ram and storage and amd still hasnt supplied the latency fix to OEMs like they did for desktop.

Just lol. They're living in a completely different universe.

If lunar lake laptops are already hitting such competitive price points, I'm expecting 500-600 handhelds with this chip relatively soonish.

Good luck AMD!

I'm actually surprised because I remember the meteor lake launch and it didn't go as smoothly. Initially was limited volume for awhile and it was kind expensive to until many months later. Guess Pat did a solid job for lunar lake launch.

But I just don't see how they're making any money off of it? They must be selling these at a loss as there's no way they're able to sell this chip at those prices at a decent margin on 3nm tsmc node?

Quote from: AGentleMetalWave on December 12, 2024, 23:21:05GeorgeS: The true Strix Halo product is actually rumored to be around the mobile 4060 performance, but it will be very different to this AI 7 350 chip, which belongs to Krackan Point. I don't know why Strix Halo is mentioned in the article at all

Are the "rumors" from the same sources that claimed the PS5-Pro was going to be 'trading blows' with 4070's??? LOL!!!

While surely AMD may at some point release dedicated mobile GPU's the CURRENT generation iGPU's can barely 'trade blows' with +6yo dedicated mobile GPU's.

The likelyhood of a current generation iGPU keeping up with a current generation mobile dGPU just ain't going to happen.

Just a bunch of hype and wishful thinking.

I am beginning to think that these articles are intentionally written so poorly in order to gather people to thrash them. As in they are trying to drum up engagement.

Quote from: Your mom on December 12, 2024, 22:36:45M4 is far ahead? How far? In what department? Brain dead isheep writer sucking apple's d*ck like its their dad's

In processing, in graphics, in energy consumption...

How did "thrashes Ryzen 7 8845HS" turn into "slightly ahead?" Y'know that abuse of superlatives reduces credibility, right? And it makes the whole site seem rather cheesy.

Quote from: Cooe on December 13, 2024, 01:57:24

Quote from: gdansk on December 12, 2024, 23:18:59Can hardly even beat a 7840U
mine scores 2642/11352 in GB6.

AMD waited nearly 2 years for 1-5% improvement at the same die size. They really fell off.

This is such an idiotic take... 🤦😑 Kraken Point isn't a Phoenix 1/Hawk Point successor genius. It's a significantly smaller chip than both! It's a direct successor to the equally tiny Phoenix 2 die. The fact that it can essentially match Phoenix 1 CPU's performance in a tiny Phoenix 2 sized package is CRAZY IMPRESSIVE!!!

It isn't faster in CPU nor GPU. The die size is actually larger than Phoenix (>178mm2). Because guess what AMD did? Added a bigger NPU compared to Phoenix.
Hope you like AI :^)

Quote from: gdansk on December 12, 2024, 23:18:59Can hardly even beat a 7840U
mine scores 2642/11352 in GB6.

AMD waited nearly 2 years for 1-5% improvement at the same die size. They really fell off.

This is such an idiotic take... 🤦😑 Kraken Point isn't a Phoenix 1/Hawk Point successor genius. It's a significantly smaller chip than both! It's a direct successor to the equally tiny Phoenix 2 die. The fact that it can essentially match Phoenix 1 CPU's performance in a tiny Phoenix 2 sized package is CRAZY IMPRESSIVE!!!

The M4 is far ahead indeed, ~15k vs ~11k and ~3.7k vs ~2.6k.

The APU in question was tested in an Acer Swift, most likely a thin and light. Since this is very early data, the comparison was made using the information found in GB6 benchmark charts. Once the APU is released and tested in systems with higher thermal budgets, the improvements will become clearer.

Yes, this has nothing to do with Strix Halo, except that both of these lineups will presumably be announced at CES. It made sense to highlight what's to come from AMD for both thin and light, as well as performance systems. I don't see how that makes the article difficult to comprehend.

Who writes this crap? Headline says thrashes 8845HS and then in body of story says slightly beats it.

And as others said, WTaF has Halo got to do with thios story??? Krackan Point is entry level apu more a cut down Strix Point only offering a max of 8 cores, unlike Strix's 12 cores. It's effectively Hawk Point successor with much better npu and RDNA3.5 for the iGPU.

GeorgeS: The true Strix Halo product is actually rumored to be around the mobile 4060 performance, but it will be very different to this AI 7 350 chip, which belongs to Krackan Point. I don't know why Strix Halo is mentioned in the article at all

Can hardly even beat a 7840U
mine scores 2642/11352 in GB6.

AMD waited nearly 2 years for 1-5% improvement at the same die size. They really fell off.