Quote from: TruthIsThere on December 02, 2024, 17:25:20A year, and many consumers highly-concerned feedback ignored, too late.

Only concerning the last 12 months, consumers have mentioned
- still too high consumption of chips other than Lunar Lake,
- happy with Lunar Lake for its efficiency at low consumption but too few OEMs get their devices right,
- unhappy with Lunar Lake at medium to high consumption because AMD is faster or more efficient there,
- prices do not reflect subpar features of the chips.

I think that earlier disappointments related to security gaps and 13th/14th gen arrogance towards consumers weigh higher. Not to mention the +++++++ years. What other concerns do you think consumers have?

A year, and many consumers highly-concerned feedback ignored, too late.

The huge difference in an AMD failure vs an Intel failure is, Intel, arrogance rules Intel, while just incompetence is seared into AMD.

Quote from: Hunter2020 on December 02, 2024, 16:43:11In the future I never want to touch Intel/AMD again.

Curious: what will you buy instead?

Boohoo.  In the future I never want to touch Intel/AMD again.  My most recent and LAST Intel machine was/IS a 11th gen.  In a few years China will release much superior products to compete with Intel/AMD.  Not that China already doesn't already have them BUT they're currently not very cost effective nor powerful.

Not to mention the accompanying OS.  I wouldn't have stuck around with Intel for so long were it not for Windows...