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Posted by markiz
 - Today at 13:23:54
Quote from: t4n0n on Today at 12:18:30If we take the analysis done by this third-party at face value, with a crash rate of 10.6 per billion vehicle miles driven and >7B vehicle miles up to 2022 for the Model Y, that means ~74 fatal crashes for the Model Y up to that date.

Sales figures for the Model Y in the US show approximately 425,000 cars sold up to 2022, which means that any given owner has a 0.01735% chance of experiencing a fatal crash in their car.

Put otherwise, you would have to own 58 Model Ys over your lifetime before you reached even a 1 in 100 chance of experiencing a fatal crash.

Which just goes to show how meaningless these statistics actually are.

You can't possibly be claiming that car safety is meaningless, but it seems you are?
Personal statistics ARE meaningless in this case. But on population size it shows up as deaths bro.
Posted by t4n0n
 - Today at 12:18:30
If we take the analysis done by this third-party at face value, with a crash rate of 10.6 per billion vehicle miles driven and >7B vehicle miles up to 2022 for the Model Y, that means ~74 fatal crashes for the Model Y up to that date.

Sales figures for the Model Y in the US show approximately 425,000 cars sold up to 2022, which means that any given owner has a 0.01735% chance of experiencing a fatal crash in their car.

Put otherwise, you would have to own 58 Model Ys over your lifetime before you reached even a 1 in 100 chance of experiencing a fatal crash.

Which just goes to show how meaningless these statistics actually are.
Posted by anan
 - Today at 10:21:54
This does not need to be mutually exclusive - the car can be safe and still get a lot of fatalities. It can mean that those cars get into more serious accidents. Or they are driven more extremely (like a sports car). Or it can be down to how statistics are compiled: if the number is calculated on the average car miles driven then the more cars they have the more fatalities there will be recorded. Cars that are more popular will have higher fatality numbers (this seems to be the case here as I doubt FARS has miles driven by model).
Posted by Redaktion
 - Today at 01:12:39
According to data from the U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS), the world's bestselling car for 2023 – Tesla's Model Y - has a crash rate of almost four times the average.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-scoffs-at-highest-fatality-crash-rate-report-as-it-cites-stellar-Model-3-and-Model-Y-safety-tests.923050.0.html