I have to wonder about the mental fortitude of someone that thinks Zen 5 is bad because of gaming. So much obsession with a child's thing. I game on a 5800X and it can play anything I throw at it at 1440p, and Zen 5 destroys Zen 3. So yeah, even a "pathetic" 9700X will be more than good enough for those that live in the real world.
After an underwhelming Zen 5 launch where the new Ryzen 9000 CPUs failed to deliver any noteworthy gaming performance increase over Zen 4, AMD has nailed the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. According to a launch review analysis conducted by 3DCenter, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D outperforms the Ryzen 7 7800X3D in gaming by a double-digit margin.