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Posted by Timzz
 - November 11, 2024, 08:56:23
Quote from: chris@amd on November 10, 2024, 22:16:22Intel should be happy 9950x3d isn't out yet. 9800x3d cannot beat 285k in production works, although 9950x is better at both gaming and production, 9950x3d will be true beast with both ccd stacked with 3d vcache and extreme clock speeds. it even beats 9800x3d in gaming and is aimed to beat everything in any workload. not exactly good outcome as a consumer perspective. and zen6 will widen the gap unfortunately.
9950x isn't better at gaming than 9800x3d, the last one is absolute leader. The case of 7xx0X3D release has shown, that multi-chiplet-multi-core processors aren't interesting for gamers because of high price and tiny gaming performance gain. I doubt 9950x3d will be gamechanger, too few rich geeks really want $800+ CPU good in both types of tasks.
Posted by chris@amd
 - November 10, 2024, 22:16:22
Intel should be happy 9950x3d isn't out yet. 9800x3d cannot beat 285k in production works, although 9950x is better at both gaming and production, 9950x3d will be true beast with both ccd stacked with 3d vcache and extreme clock speeds. it even beats 9800x3d in gaming and is aimed to beat everything in any workload. not exactly good outcome as a consumer perspective. and zen6 will widen the gap unfortunately.
Posted by JUAN_pcbox
 - November 10, 2024, 19:42:54
The Ryzen 7 9800X3D against a dozen other modern CPUs, ranging from the Ryzen 9 9950X and Core Ultra 9 285K to the Ryzen 5 9600X and Core Ultra 5 245K, along with a few previous-generation components. The net result: it's on average 15% faster than the second-place chip, AMD's previous-generation Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Against Intel, the gap widens substantially, with a 30% lead over the Core i9-14900K and a 35% lead over the Core Ultra 9 285K. The Ryzen 7 9800X3D sits as the new king, and all the specialized media are saying so.
Posted by Joe
 - November 10, 2024, 18:25:50
Intel did not expect that most popular reviewers are gaming focused? Review from Phoronix website shows 285K has 12% better performace than 14900K, including some "linux gaming". Plus better efficiency.
For gamers who can buy AMD X3D and >1000€ GPU, choice is simple. But others, with less budget, less gaming and more non-gaming computing, there is not enough reviews.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - November 10, 2024, 14:07:22
Hopefully not that bad old more power for higher speed.
Posted by Hif
 - November 10, 2024, 13:45:32
There is only one first impression.
Posted by Redaktion
 - November 10, 2024, 12:35:46
The Intel Arrow Lake series didn't quite meet the expectations, and the company admitted that the launch didn't go as planned. Intel has also shared that it plans to fix the performance of the Core Ultra 200S lineup with performance fix updates.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-says-Arrow-Lake-launch-didn-t-go-as-planned-promises-to-fix-performance.915546.0.html