Shut up you fucking shill.

Ok, I won't point fingers on which company historically started the "vaporware" or "vaporhardware" announcement trend...

The REALITY is that MOST CORPORATIONS have a fixed hardware upgrade cadence where these silly announcements have ZERO effect.

There are producers that ether NEED to replace or have enhanced performance NOW that simply CAN'T wait as time=money.

Then there's the sheep/lemming public that may (or NOT!) be encouraged to 'wait for' whatever is being promised.

So while on the one hand the vapor announcements can be attempts to be (or remain) relevant on the other hand it shows what these companies think of the public.

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on November 05, 2024, 19:17:58Nobody wants to buy Intel now everyone is waiting for the release of the AMD ZEN 5 9000xD chips that have demonstrated greater efficiency and performance

AMD fanbois also don't buy the default 9000 CPU series. AMD fanbois also only wait for the AMD 9000x3D chip. What does that tell you? It tells you that the only good AMD CPU is the "x3D" version, and everything else is "crap". So by your logic "nobody" wants to buy AMD either, except for that 1 special CPU. Not exactly a good argument to praise one company so much over the other...

NOBODY WANTS TO BUY INTEL
The last 3 years of Intel have been a continuous disappointment, with defective Intel Core 13 and 14 products that suffered from high voltages and even oxidation, incomprehensible with today's modern techniques. And speaking of the latest generation Intel Core Ultra 15 or HarrowLake that performs less than the chips from 1 year ago, even AMD has surpassed it with 20% more performance and with lower consumption and lower temperatures.
Intel has self-destructed in laptops, PCs, servers. Nobody wants to buy Intel now everyone is waiting for the release of the AMD ZEN 5 9000xD chips that have demonstrated greater efficiency and performance and the AMD HALO and Kraken laptops are still to come out, which come out in January 2025 with the AMD Z2. But let's not forget that in mid-2025 Nvidia appears with a new CPU + GPU

Considering how long it takes from announcement to actual availability, 2026 is much more believable. I mean look at Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake - how long it took for them to be actually available. And Arrow Lake is still only available with 3 K-processors, while everything else is delayed...

It always goes like this:

1) Intel says "Panther Lake is ready in H1 2025"
2) Intel waits and showcases its products in fall 2025
3) Hardware manufacturers wait for specific computer show dates (CES 2026)
4)  You have to wait another 3+ months for the product to become actually available


It's delay after delay after delay. The whole announcement-availability-cycle has become slow and annoying as F---

Thus I ask you (anyone): Why should it be different with Panther Lake? Why should it be different with Nova Lake? I tell you what: it won't be different. Because the same waiting and delaying cycle repeats all over again. Panther Lake will come earliest 2026. Hardware sellers will want to wait again for CES 2026 (because they always do) and then you have to wait yet again a couple of months.

And because everything takes so f--- long, consider this: there is a significant chance that Arrow lake will will receive a refresh (despite them claiming it won't) - simply because it takes them so f---cking long to bring their new technology to the market. The same story happened with Raptor Lake 13th and 14th generation. Because it took them so long to bring new technology to the market they made refresh of the 13th generation. They actually didn't planned that, but it was easier to bringt to the market because all the delivery roads were already set and didn't require many changes. Why should it be different this time? According to them Arrow Lake is only planned for a 1 year existence? Hilarious and unbelievable. They are not that fast. An Arrow Lake Refresh could be decent though as there is a chance they integrate Xe2 graphics.


Lastly... I thought AMD was bad in these matteres (from announcement to actual availability) but the truth is - it's now the exact same issue with Intel. Maybe it wasn't in the past, but it definitely is for a couple of years now.