Quote from: N-B on November 02, 2024, 12:39:22the new series is an absolute, simply epic failure

Nope. It's actually not a failure. The pros clearly outweigh the cons:

pros:
better task scheduling since the removal of Hyperthreading
lower power
lower temperatures
much better iGPU
Arc drivers for iGPU, which fixes graphics glitches that still exist on Raptor Lake

cons:
5% performance loss of CPU compared to Raptor Lake


In fact the only failure is 95% of the "techworld", which hung themselves up on a neglectable performance loss, and pushed all other advantages under the rug. Just shows how unprofessional they really are.

Even from the point of view of ordinary shareholders, buying Intel shares is pointless over periods of 20 years or more, i.e. pension plans. This is a pure Zombie company.

Look at Microsoft, Intel's key ally for the last 30 years - its net profit per quarter is already close to the capitalization of Russian Gazprom (which once, in 2008, was worth more than $300 billion, several times more than Microsoft's capitalization, and now is worth nothing), and Microsoft's capitalization already exceeds the capitalization of the entire stock market of Putin's Russia many times over, although from the point of view of the Windows ecosystem they have completely degraded, but they moved into other niches in time and succeeded. For how long - that's another question...

NikoB.

Intel has finally gone down the drain not only in notebook chips (I had hoped and wrote about this earlier that TSMC's "3nm" would give them a second wind - but the Intel development team has obviously completely degenerated and Intel has lost all its human capital over the past 15 years), but also in desktops, where there are no strong restrictions on consumption. But even here the new series is an absolute, simply epic failure, given that Intel gave in and switched to TSMC's process technologies, which are better than those used by AMD.

Intel's losses are so monstrous (-$16 billion per quarter!) that only subsidies from the American and European governments (the cynical cancellation of fines in fake, clearly politicized European "courts" is also a pure subsidy in favor of Intel) allow them to still stay afloat, and not be a company that has sunk into oblivion...

And after this, the two-faced West has the audacity to make claims against China with its subsidies to manufacturers and semi-planned economy? Hand-face... Where did the "market" economy of the West go? Zombie companies must be punished by the market mercilessly and destroyed. All of them, without exception. These are the rules of the market.

NikoB.

QuoteIntel Arrow Lake review analysis shows Core Ultra 200S CPUs are efficiency champs and gaming duds

They have actually become decent in iGPU gaming, because they doubled the iGPU size. Even though that isn't the main focus of desktop CPUs it is something that should be mentioned, as it makes casual gaming possible.

It is actually quite difficult to find reviews, so I'll post some links with iGPU gaming tests:

techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-7-265k/23.html
youtube.com/watch?v=4rdBm3hlA_Y
youtube.com/watch?v=Z_5jtoku5u8
youtube.com/watch?v=f66cDPbscNU

Well the only important metric for laptop platforms is keeping up with smaller nanometer process nodes from competition. I automated a lot of driver testing around battery life last year that was manual slow pace work for Intel so hopefully they use it to get ahead while they can. Let's be honest, if you have a heavy workload on your laptop you will have a charger connected to the wall, this whole argument of battery life in heavy workload instances is a pissing match that really doesn't make sense to anyone with a brain....