Quote from: paviko on October 29, 2024, 14:22:04

Quote from: Elias_40 on October 29, 2024, 13:56:35the AMD Zen 5 9000x3d, not only because it performs better than the new Intel and consumes less energy[/b]

You don't know that. From leaks it will probably consume more energy (higher clocks) but be faster.

Quote from: Elias_40 on October 29, 2024, 13:56:35AMD and its AM 5 give us almost 7 years of updates[/b]

This is misleading like with AM4. Where is Ryzen 7000 or Ryzen 9000 for AM4 to support 7 years? Nowhere. Amd just released a few days ago old, the same Ryzen 5000 for AM4. It is no difference as buying 4 years old CPU.
9800x3d will be expensive as hell.

I will buy 7800x3d if price drop again to 350$. If not, I will buy Intel 245K or even 14600K for gaming in 4K. The difference is so low at higher than 1080p resolution, not worth overpriced cpu.
 

You are right in everything you said but be aware that you are talking to a literal spambot and AMD shill. Its other names here are usacomputers, julia_top, Enma_45 and at least 20 others. Just two examples from other threads:

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 18:07:47Intel's new processors are a disaster, it is being talked about in all the specialized forums.
The 5700x3d has better performance and is about twice as energy efficient as the 245k. Why would anyone buy this newly released CPU that costs $100 more than the 5700x3d ????
Other advantages of AMD are that you can upgrade it for 7 years while with Intel you can't.
Regarding dGPUs, there is still nothing from Intel that surpasses AMD and Nvidia.
And with the arrival of the new iGPUs in ultrabooks, it has already been shown that Intel is far behind and AMD HALO and Kraken Point laptops have not yet come out
Zen 10% vs Core -10% if you see the comments on Youtube THEY WILL SHOW YOU the reality, I don't think thousands of people are wrong

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Quote from: usacomputer on October 26, 2024, 18:19:44People are waiting for the AMD ZEN 5 9000x3D, let's hope TSMC has enough stock because they will be difficult to buy due to their 7 years of updates. In 2032 you will be able to buy the latest and install it without paying anything, with Intel it is impossible. ArrowLake is dead in addition to its low performance and high consumption.

X3D chips are desktop chips, not laptop chips.  The laptop chips are HX3D.

Do you think 5000 users are any more than a drop in the bucket to either Intel or AMD? XD You greatly overvalue what you bring to the table. If the chips cost $500 and you and every single one of your buddies buy one, that's $2.5 million in sales. $5 million if they go for $1000 a piece.  AMD's Q3 24 revenue is expected to be $6.7 BILLION. That's not even That's less that .1% of their revenue for 1 quarter. XD

You're so full of it. You don't get 7 years of updates with AMD.  And even if you could, why would you want to? Tech changes all the time, and it's not like AM4 and AM5 didn't exist side by side. You're really going to want to cripple a brand new chip with years old tech?  If you're buying a new motherboard anyway, who cares what socket it is?  Especially with the good bundle deals, you just push the old system down and either keep using it for what you were doing and add the new system, or you repurpose the old one to do something else and use the new one for what you were doing.

You're full of it if you're in an advanced computing forum. This is basic stuff you're getting wrong.

Face it dude.  Not only are you full of it but your purchases mean nothing to AMD.  You and your buddies are a rounding error to them.  Not only that, they don't love you and they never will. They don't even know who you are.  All they care is that you buy a chip, and then they serve the next person in line and you're forgotten about.

But what makes sense to you, but brand loyalty is stupid, especially when things can change so quickly. One day's leader can be tomorrow's loser.  And yes, AMD and Intel have switched places multiple occasions for the lead.  And both have gotten fat and lazy when the other one was competitive.

Quote from: Elias_40 on October 29, 2024, 13:56:35the AMD Zen 5 9000x3d, not only because it performs better than the new Intel and consumes less energy[/b]

You don't know that. From leaks it will probably consume more energy (higher clocks) but be faster.

Quote from: Elias_40 on October 29, 2024, 13:56:35AMD and its AM 5 give us almost 7 years of updates[/b]

This is misleading like with AM4. Where is Ryzen 7000 or Ryzen 9000 for AM4 to support 7 years? Nowhere. Amd just released a few days ago old, the same Ryzen 5000 for AM4. It is no difference as buying 4 years old CPU.
9800x3d will be expensive as hell.

I will buy 7800x3d if price drop again to 350$. If not, I will buy Intel 245K or even 14600K for gaming in 4K. The difference is so low at higher than 1080p resolution, not worth overpriced cpu.
 

I have it clear that my next purchase will be the AMD Zen 5 9000x3d, not only because it performs better than the new Intel and consumes less energy, something essential in laptops but important in PCs so that the electricity bill is not so expensive.
I and in the advanced computing forum, and we are more than 5,000 people, highly value the possibilities of updating, where AMD and its AM 5 give us almost 7 years of updates, with Intel ArrowLake it doesn't even last a year and you have to change everything again, spend money on the motherboard, RAM, power supply, driver installation, time and money and that almost every year, nobody is willing to put up with this bad Intel policy.
That's why we're waiting for the AMD ZEN 5 9000x3d, which we know will sell out immediately, but we'll try to buy them ALL OVER CHRISTMAS.