Kinda stupid journalist the GPU of dimensity 9400 and snapdragon 8 elite blows apple out of the water...that's stupid journalist for apple fan

This kind of clickbaity article is what pisses me off... Notebookcheck are really going downhill with this.

Nobody compares efficiency just by dividing max performance with max power. Efficiency should be compared with a graph of performance against power, and limit one of the factors and compare the other aka compare perf at a given power or likewise.


Very disappointing article from notebookcheck honestly, really discredits the reliability of all their other reviews and tests.

Quote from: Sambit Saha on October 24, 2024, 21:15:38The 8 Elite consumes 0.3 W more than the A18 Pro while being around 5% slower the single-core test.
In Geekerwan's multi-core test, the A18 Pro consumes 27% lower power, but is only around 12% slower.

Quote from: Disrupt on October 24, 2024, 15:23:15You know that your product has been successful, when you've managed to trigger a certain group of fruit company fanboys and gotten them to the point, where they foam at the mouth. And that's over an soc that delivers upwards of 20% more multicore performance, while consuming 3/10's of a watt more power and having two extra CPU cores to work with. The years of Apple's complete dominance over phone soc performance are almost over, it's time to make room for more competitors. 6.6W vs 6.9W is literally a difference of less than 6%, ain't that gonna put a dent on your battery life. /s
If anything, everyone expected QCom's S8Elite to be way more power hungry, considering the fact that it has more cores to feed power to. But that's not the case is it? Nope. If anything, this showcases that the Nuvia design influence has culminated in the S8Elite being an efficiency monster this time around.

3/10's of 1W means 0.3, the difference between 6.6 and 6.9, or less than 5 percent basically. Nothing to write home about, when it comes to power/watt or efficiency. And that percentage also applies to the difference between the single core performance of both chips, it's approximately 5 percent, maybe a little bit over that.

But it's still a far cry from prior gens, where we saw much greater efficiency with Apple chips while delivering 30 percent greater single core performance. And this test had the Apple chip running on an optimised Apple compiler, while the other two were running on GB's generic compiler...and the S8Elite still surpassed the A18 pro's multicore performance, while falling behind by about 6% in single core performance. This time around they're more evenly matched, even though it's apples vs oranges, due to one running on its own compiler and the other running on a generic one.

The 8 Elite consumes 0.3 W more than the A18 Pro while being around 5% slower the single-core test.
In Geekerwan's multi-core test, the A18 Pro consumes 27% lower power, but is only around 12% slower.

Quote from: Disrupt on October 24, 2024, 15:23:15You know that your product has been successful, when you've managed to trigger a certain group of fruit company fanboys and gotten them to the point, where they foam at the mouth. And that's over an soc that delivers upwards of 20% more multicore performance, while consuming 3/10's of a watt more power and having two extra CPU cores to work with. The years of Apple's complete dominance over phone soc performance are almost over, it's time to make room for more competitors. 6.6W vs 6.9W is literally a difference of less than 6%, ain't that gonna put a dent on your battery life. /s
If anything, everyone expected QCom's S8Elite to be way more power hungry, considering the fact that it has more cores to feed power to. But that's not the case is it? Nope. If anything, this showcases that the Nuvia design influence has culminated in the S8Elite being an efficiency monster this time around.

You know that your product has been successful, when you've managed to trigger a certain group of fruit company fanboys and gotten them to the point, where they foam at the mouth. And that's over an soc that delivers upwards of 20% more multicore performance, while consuming 3/10's of a watt more power and having two extra CPU cores to work with. The years of Apple's complete dominance over phone soc performance are almost over, it's time to make room for more competitors. 6.6W vs 6.9W is literally a difference of less than 6%, ain't that gonna put a dent on your battery life. /s
If anything, everyone expected QCom's S8Elite to be way more power hungry, considering the fact that it has more cores to feed power to. But that's not the case is it? Nope. If anything, this showcases that the Nuvia design influence has culminated in the S8Elite being an efficiency monster this time around.

What the unnecessary 😅

What a sissy way to argue that A18 is better than Qualcomm 8 Elite.

When it comes to Qualcomm chips perfomance he says 'Regarding raw multi-core CPU performance, the Snapdragon 8 Elite appears to be leading the pack, at least in synthetic benchmarks." Synthetic benchmark, but not for A18 or others.

This show how biased this whole article is.

With this kind a clickbait title, notebookcheck just lost its credibility.

This article title and contents is surely wrong about the multicore efficiency...if you look at the graph from which the data is pulled...the Qualcomm uses around 1.5 less watts to get the same score as the apple A18 pro so is more efficient when matched to the score.  That is where the efficiency can/should be measured not at their max performance.

What a biased article, Apple is only efficient and faster using Geekbench single core whereas Snapdragon and Mediatek is faster in both AnTuTu and 3dMark. If only Geekbench is the benchmark to consider then Apple is better, I am sure a new Geekbench version is on its way to reign Apple better again on paper. If A18 is better in efficiency then why does it loose to Snapdragon 8 gen 3 in battery life. Iphone 16 pro max only has 250mAh less battery but depletes 20% faster in Mrwhoisthebose battery drain test.

Two points to consider:
1. Apple A18 Pro was running on Geekbench compiled with super optimized Apple complier, whereas Snapdragon and Dimensity using generic compiler. It's like comparing SPEC result for Intel CPU using Intel compiler versus the rest using generic gcc and wonder how Intel is 20-30% faster then the rest. Looks like Snapdragon and Dimensity really caught Apple SoC or even surpassed.
2. 16W and 18W in multithread scenario is ridiculous for phone. Even Lunar Lake for laptops with air cooling is using less, the same MacBook Air