Quote from: Breadcrumbs on October 25, 2024, 11:24:39Seriously, when has RAM ever failed on laptops?

The problem is not that they may be needed now, but that they may be needed in the future, in which this laptop could be used further, although this particular model has too low multi-threaded performance, although faster than Lunar Lake, for anyone to think of using it with 64GB. For 64GB+, the performance from the start in CineBench R15 should now be at least 3000 points. Then the lifespan of the laptop really makes sense to increase by installing 64GB+ of RAM. But this series is clearly not for such purposes. It is a toy for mid-level managers in companies...

Quote from: Breadcrumbs on October 25, 2024, 11:24:39But when AMD releases cheaper SKUs for their more budget range the performance for the wattage is so bad you might as well go lunar lake or even Qualcomm.

Even the morally obsolete Zen2 is equal to Lunar Lake or close in multi-threaded performance, although it consumes more. All subsequent Zen3 - easily deal with Lunar Lake in Cinebench R15. As this model is clearly faster in real laptops even more expensive Lunar Lake chips. The question is - why does anyone need this misunderstanding from Intel? For the sake of slightly faster integration, which cannot even reach the level of 8-year-old 1050Ti in top chips, in 10-year-old games?

Today, first of all, multi-threaded performance is important, and not single-threaded, in which Lunar Lake completely disgraced itself even against the background of 5-year-old AMD processors, while at a much higher price for new models with it.

As I have written many times - the main advantage of the new series is only one - a faster memory controller, about 2.5-3 times faster than in Zen2. But with Zen5 they are practically the same for the first time in the history of AMD, which previously constantly lost in RAM bandwidth to Intel chips of approximately the same year of release. So now Intel can only swallow the dust for AMD...

Qualcomm is of little use to anyone (except for those who like to show off for the company's money or when there is nowhere to put their own) it is poorly compatible with the x86 code base and real models cost 1.5 times more than they deserve.

It all comes down to who produces more mobile processors in the x86 market. And this, unfortunately, is Intel, which has lost technologically, and not AMD with clearly better processors. Everything should have been the other way around for 3 years, but alas, AMD has neither the money nor the desire to arrange the front in the x86 market in its favor, even at the time of Intel's near collapse... it is more concerned with the server market and the market of accelerators for neural networks, and game consoles, than the x86 market for ordinary consumers.

Quote from: AMDFanboi on October 24, 2024, 12:37:00AMD, soldered RAM = no buy. I don't want something that will fail shortly after warranty.

Seriously, when has RAM ever failed on laptops?

That gaming performance of the 740M is yikes tho. People called the Snapdragon x elite a flop for gaming when that came out but even that got slightly higher FPS than this in cyberpunk.

They probably have way longer battery life for lighter tasks too. The Lenovo slim 7x for example gets +50% more in WiFi browsing battery life.

Feel like AMD is in a tricky consumer marketing situation. Nobody wants to pay a premium for AMD unless X3D desktop or server. But when AMD releases cheaper SKUs for their more budget range the performance for the wattage is so bad you might as well go lunar lake or even Qualcomm.

Don't see the point of this 740M part besides AMD trying to get rid of excess bad yield part silicon that they've not been able to get rid of yet. Breadcrumbs essentially.

AMD, soldered RAM = no buy. I don't want something that will fail shortly after warranty.