NikoB, do you ever get bored with patrolling around 24/7 and copy/pasting the same stuff day in day out? Do you seriously have nothing else to do with your life?

Quote from: FormFactor on October 13, 2024, 18:21:27If it's a 15" laptop designed for 55w-90w, just stick strix halo in it Lenovo. I can wait till CES. Jan '25 isn't that far off now.

Not at all. It is enough to provide 3000 points in the multi-threaded test in Cinebench R15 at 30W. This is exactly what professionals, not amateurs, expect from the chip manufacturing industry at the end of 2024.

Next (in the German section) is the Thinkpad L15 test on the outdated Zen3+ - it is literally 35-40% faster in the multi-threaded Cinebench R15 test at 31W than the latest crystal from Intel. And this is already a very outdated chip. Even Zen2 is faster than Lunar Lake at 50W. This is a complete disgrace for the Intel team, which got access to TSMC "3nm". We, сonsumers, expected at least 2000+ points at 22-25W without any tricks, with a low noise level. And at 1200-1300 points where the laptop must already be 100% silent in passive mode. This is exactly the kind of output that should have been on the advanced "3nm" cores at the end of 2024. And a real "breakthrough" would have been if they had shown 2800-3000 points at 25-30W.

Moore's Law (or rather expectations for performance for 1W growth) is long dead and forgotten. Humanity is reaching a plateau in performance for 1W with silicon. Further, we need to move in other directions, but all of them are still at the stage of laboratory research, and not finished mass, industrial technologies.

This chassis feels like it's missing the point of the chip. The whole point of lunar lake is vastly superior performance at 9w-13w workloads.

Who wants a 11watt chip in a 15" form factor notebook that are typically designed to handle dissipitating 55w-90w of heat.

Need this stuck in a 7" handheld where it'd thrive and be best at. Like an updated legion go 2 perhaps.

If it's a 15" laptop designed for 55w-90w, just stick strix halo in it Lenovo. I can wait till CES. Jan '25 isn't that far off now.

I don't like such a glossy screens. It's a nightmare.

Nice device with outstanding speakers. Finally Lenovo is paying more attention to this. Where is the minisforum V3 fan boy? I want to see him rant.

I don't get this.
The reviews starts with snapdragon being lot less atrractive due to battery life, then in the battery life comparison not a single snapdragon device is added.
Come on.

Finally, the message has begun to reach the manufacturers that the power ports built into the USB-C must be located on any laptop symmetrically on the left and right (convenient for both left-handers and right-handers, of whom there are most on the planet, and they were made mainly for left-handers, a minority!) or one of them must be at the back. This is probably the first laptop with the ability to connect a power supply from both sides.

Otherwise, for the price offered, there is nothing special to look at here - the performance is below the level of Zen2 5 years ago, i.e. the processor even at 30W is morally obsolete by more than 5 (five) years! Only the RAM is about 3 times faster than in Zen2, but it is ridiculously small. The SSD is weak in performance and without a hardware dram buffer (that is extremely bad for the OS and software) and small capacity. The noise levels with such performance is frankly overstated, because Lenovo already had a lot of old models with AMD in the business class on local reviews, which were significantly faster in multi-threaded performance and at the same time 2-3 times quieter even under full load!

As a result, we have in the review, another newfangled "typewriter" for housewives in social networks (though it is unclear why they need it - everything has long been written on smartphones) and traveling salesmen. For any real serious work with a lot of background software and tabs - a wildly expensive meaningless toy with such introductory characteristics.

Bought, threw away after 1-2 years, due to lack of RAM and performance. "Greens" and environmentalists grind their teeth, looking at similar products from Lenovo and soon similar ones. But Intel somehow needs to survive and marketers will tear into rags anyone who dares to contradict their false howls about the super cool Lunar Lake ...