Should have said "up to 20% lower". More like 10% near 40 W

i7-11800H in Dell XPS 9510 - undervolted
20 W with NO hyperthreading CBR23 multi-score 6170
20 W with hyperthreading CBR23 multi-score 6900
30 W with hyperthreading CBR23 multi-score 8500
40 W with hyperthreading CBR23 multi-score 10220

So competitive even after 4 years with several nodes and CPU architecture later. These scores appear only about 20% lower than Ultra 200V with TSMC 3B, on-package memory, etc.

Search Reddit for intel_2_nodes_1_architectures_vs_i711800h_and implications for Arrow Lake

timespy has shown above average performance for intel GPUs in the past too. it's real games where they generally fail.

Quote from: Arlekin on September 21, 2024, 20:18:41

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on September 21, 2024, 18:53:33Currently, no one buys Intel because they do not trust it after the fiasco of 2 generations of Intel Core 13 and 14 that burned or suffered oxidation.

No one cares about Intel 13th or 14th gen anymore. But lots of people care about upcoming Arrow Lake.

Everyone cares about every intel product from now on, as they will always hold back "just in case" these new chips start defecting like the old ones. Remember, to have a 14900 fail on you is not the same as having an underwhelming product. I'd rather have a stable and safe cpu than go with a company who took months to just admit smth was wrong.

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on September 21, 2024, 18:53:33Currently, no one buys Intel because they do not trust it after the fiasco of 2 generations of Intel Core 13 and 14 that burned or suffered oxidation.

No one cares about Intel 13th or 14th gen anymore. But lots of people care about upcoming Arrow Lake.

Besides prepare for upcoming AMD degradation fiasco on 8500G, 8600G, 8700G chips. AMD cheaped out on the thermal paste under the IHS (internal heat spreader) as they used only cheap thermal paste instead of soldering it to the IHS. Good luck when that dries out (I'll give it a year if you're using the computer also for gaming), and then the chip most likely becomes useless because of constant overheating.

This news is somewhat manipulated, in terms of graphics Intel is still light years ahead of AMD, the Xe2 does not surpass RDNA 3.5, just as AMD's NPU is superior to Intel's. Regarding their CPUs, we will still have to see more comparisons since all of Intel's technology went down the drain when changing from 18A to TSMC 3NB.
Currently, no one buys Intel because they do not trust it after the fiasco of 2 generations of Intel Core 13 and 14 that burned or suffered oxidation.

Quote from: Serhii on September 21, 2024, 17:01:34Why Intel not compared their newcoming processors with newcoming AMD Strix Halo? Or its would be too dark comparing for Intel?

Because "Halo" is a completely different league for a completely different use case. Even compared to AMD's own Strix Point.

Why Intel not compared their newcoming processors with newcoming AMD Strix Halo? Or its would be too dark comparing for Intel?