To all the people who commented, but can't read... The article is not about a battery with a "600 mile range"...

Musk has been making claims for longer life than these for years. Claims are easy. Some may think that no one needs over 200 mile ranges, until certain conditions, like cold/hot, head winds, up hill grades,  headlights, older battery or wipers and find that their range has been cut in half or more. I speak from experience.

Seems like just an excuse to justify fear of the unknown frankly. Far-fetched that many people are going to drive hours without stopping for a bathroom break or food.

Also, many people who can afford a new vehicle would fly not drive multiple days to get to their destination, eating up vacation days.  Hotels aren't free either for taking multiple days to drive to Florida for example.

Also, most families have multiple vehicles and basically never are both of them 150 miles away from home. There's no reason why one of them can't be an electric vehicle and never require charging away from home. So that's one vehicle out of two that's never going to have to be taken to a gas station on a frigid day or crazy hot day, require two oil changes a year, and the other maintenance and repairs required for a gas vehicle...

Quote from: Mitchell Hurt on September 15, 2024, 15:56:41Many news articels on new battery technology have been written lately but haven't seen any real results, breaking into the 600 mile range for family transportation is the key factor for many in deciding to purchase a electric car.

Including standard winter use below. -15C?

Quote from: StenLi on September 15, 2024, 19:30:00That fraction of rides between 300 and 600 miles is super small market.

"People don't drive far a lot means they don't need long range batteries" is a flawed logic. You might do 2000km trip couple times a year but you still want to do it with maximum comfort.

I hope these batteries are not like LED globes that are supposed to last for 30,000 hours.

Recently, European countries and Mexico are discussing with China to build electric car and battery factories, but we followed the United States to increase tariffs on Chinese electric cars by 100%. China has countered and hurt our farmers. I don't understand what benefit we get from doing this? We don't have an electric car industry that needs protection. Now is a good time to discuss with China about building electric car and battery factories in Canada instead of imposing 100% tariffs on each other. Imagine if battery factories and electric car factories were built in Canada, we Canadians would have more jobs, be able to buy cheap cars, and spend only one-fifth to one-tenth of the money on electricity for EV compared gas for normal car. This is a win-win situation. What a good thing for Canadians. I don't know why we should do this?

Quote from: Mitchell Hurt on September 15, 2024, 15:56:41Many news articels on new battery technology have been written lately but haven't seen any real results, breaking into the 600 mile range for family transportation is the key factor for many in deciding to purchase a electric car.

That's very popular hoax, average daily drive is under 25 miles and 90% of rides are undr 80 miles, 98% under 300 miles. That fraction of rides between 300 and 600 miles is super small market. 94% od cars sales in Norway are BEVs. Technology is there, people must be smarter in the rest of the world.

Many news articels on new battery technology have been written lately but haven't seen any real results, breaking into the 600 mile range for family transportation is the key factor for many in deciding to purchase a electric car.

This is of course highly impressive - but CATL, NIO and other Chinese EV/battery market-leaders do seem to have very contradictory, bifurcating and very schizophrenic strategies and attitudes in terms of long battery life versus battery swapping.
How can they still rationalize and marry these two very contradictory discordant approaches ?  The key issue or moot question never asked or answered by anyone being:
- the whole meaning and checkability of battery-life and a battery-pack's clocked-up mileage, age, capacity lost since new etc - all of these key state-of-health,  resale-value and depreciation indicators evaporate into thin air - are unknowable, unverifiable and un-trackable as soon as an EV-owner begins to use battery-swapping stations !
But on the other hand one-off end-of-life, new-for-old battery-swapping stations ARE obviously exactly what consumers and EV critics DO want and ARE crying out for worldwide !
Paul G