In contrast to M series and 8cx Gen 3, Snapdragon X Elite doesn't have efficiency cores. I think that's one of the reasons why it runs hot and still has audible fans under load. I think X Elite can only truly compete when they add efficiency cores in the next iteration. I have a feeling also Lunar Lake will have equal performance and battery life as X Elite, but without the emulation penalty and it will less run hot thanks to the efficiency cores.

Quote from: lol on August 12, 2024, 21:10:41Apple had balls to not listen to conspiracy theorists with their "solder will crack" "throttling is bad" etc. etc. On top of vast expertise in passively cooled ARM chips of course.
8cx gen three actually wasn't that bad performance-wise, very usable.

yes, later snapdragons 8cx wasn't so bad in term of perfomance and really good in term of battery life, even outperforming apple products, but pricing was similar to flagship ultrathin laptops with core i7 and ryzen7, and they  are way faster

Quote from: alex228 on August 12, 2024, 18:39:35why all newer Qualcomm arm laptops are actively cooled ? There's no options with passive cooling ? They are so hot ? Apple somehow made air super stable with passive cooling, waited almost year for Qualcomm laptops and disappointed in them quickly, at least older snapdragon 8cx and other were passively cooled, but running slow as cheap celerons and pentium
Bought air m3 and super happy with it, unbelievable, how it stays absolutely cold during my usual work, after noisy and hot Lenovo laptop (ryzen 5), even at idle stupid windows doing something in background, even after killing all background processes, it still running on fans

Apple had balls to not listen to conspiracy theorists with their "solder will crack" "throttling is bad" etc. etc. On top of vast expertise in passively cooled ARM chips of course.
8cx gen three actually wasn't that bad performance-wise, very usable.

why all newer Qualcomm arm laptops are actively cooled ? There's no options with passive cooling ? They are so hot ? Apple somehow made air super stable with passive cooling, waited almost year for Qualcomm laptops and disappointed in them quickly, at least older snapdragon 8cx and other were passively cooled, but running slow as cheap celerons and pentium
Bought air m3 and super happy with it, unbelievable, how it stays absolutely cold during my usual work, after noisy and hot Lenovo laptop (ryzen 5), even at idle stupid windows doing something in background, even after killing all background processes, it still running on fans

Quote from: mmcnl88 on August 11, 2024, 23:00:09Surely this can't be right?

Yes

Medion's laptops unfortunately don't have the german quality.

"The Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite X1E-78-100's 12 CPU cores (4P, 8E) achieve a maximum clock speed of 3.4 GHz."

Surely this can't be right? As far as I know the X Elite doesn't have efficiency cores. There is no mention of this anywhere else on the internet.