Quote from: GeorgeS on August 12, 2024, 17:56:31Just think, just 10yrs ago (2014) you needed a dGPU to even think about gaming beyond old vintage 1980's "DOS" games. (an era where 720P was 'very high resolution')

No you didn't, it was just not as popular. With the rise of dGPUs gamedevs stopped optimizing their s***, that's for sure, but World of Warcraft or War Thunder or World of Tanks ran in 2014-2018 on Intel HD Graphics and Iris iGPUs. Games that required audience were working hard on optimization and were running on all kinds of lower-end hw.

I don't understand the point of saying the newest and greatest igpu performs better than the lowest end 6 year old dgpu.

Quote from: DZXTRICKS on August 12, 2024, 13:27:59As someone who still uses 1650 mobile... I feel so small 🙂

*sigh*

One of my favorite Laptops has a GTX1650m installed in it.

And while YES the entire system gets rather warm when pushed (I make use of a FAN tray for it to sit on which then sits on my lap) it *IS ABLE TO* play a large assortment of games at higher settings then the AMD 7xxM is able to.

YES the GTX1650 is rather 'aged' in 2024. Nvidia's best modern replacement is the RTX4050 which (IMHO) is a fairly capable "low end dGPU".

Just think, just 10yrs ago (2014) you needed a dGPU to even think about gaming beyond old vintage 1980's "DOS" games. (an era where 720P was 'very high resolution')

I still have multiple laptops in service that have GTX1xxx series dGPU's installed in them.

No, none of them are are very 'speedy' however with the right games and settings can still in 2024 offer a GREAT gaming experience!

As someone who still uses 1650 mobile... I feel so small 🙂

Quote from: Joe on August 12, 2024, 09:10:40They should target something like GTX 4050 at least.

Look at apple ARM gpus for those levels of performance.

I'd rather wait until Strix Halo is out. Nvidia GTX 1650 is old news by now. They should target something like GTX 4050 at least.

Quote from: TruthIsThere on August 12, 2024, 04:10:22"A APU is keeping up or beating a dedicated gpu... that is GENERATIONS-OLD."

It's been just 3-4 years ago, why capitalize GENERATIONS-OLD.

Quote from: TruthIsThere on August 12, 2024, 04:10:22"A APU is keeping up or beating a dedicated gpu... that is GENERATIONS-OLD."

Fixed! 😏

The point is that it is still being used.
Now that we have an apu that can effectively replace it, we can hopefully expect the bottom tier d-gpus to be at least 50% more powerful than the last generation.

The sad thing is that I see no SO-DIMM ddr5 memory support for any of the current generation processors (intel and and).

Quote from: Billyjeen on August 11, 2024, 22:57:37

Quote from: Hotz on August 11, 2024, 19:35:32The problem with that video is, that he doesn't tell us if he uses GDDR5 or GDDR6 on the gtx 1650. There is a huge difference between both, which is that the GDDR6 version can be up to 50% faster than the GDDR5 version.

But since we don't know which one he used...

Does it matter tho? A APU is keeping up or beating a dedicated gpu.

"A APU is keeping up or beating a dedicated gpu... that is GENERATIONS-OLD."

Fixed! 😏

Hahaha, even with GDDR5 the 1650 has more bandwidth than the Zen5 RAM.

Quote from: Hotz on August 11, 2024, 19:35:32The problem with that video is, that he doesn't tell us if he uses GDDR5 or GDDR6 on the gtx 1650. There is a huge difference between both, which is that the GDDR6 version can be up to 50% faster than the GDDR5 version.

But since we don't know which one he used...

Does it matter tho? A APU is keeping up or beating a dedicated gpu.

It's pretty much the same unless the GDDR6 version has 100W TDP instead of 75W that is default and which was 890m compared to.

The problem with that video is, that he doesn't tell us if he uses GDDR5 or GDDR6 on the gtx 1650. There is a huge difference between both, which is that the GDDR6 version can be up to 50% faster than the GDDR5 version.

But since we don't know which one he used...