Would 600usd be a fair price for this laptop?

Please can someone at Notebookcheck look at your ratings? This laptop has a pretty poor worth review, yet it's scored at 87%, which means it's pretty much once of the best laptops in existence. I've been reading you pretty much daily for at least the last 6 years and the reviews just get less and less consistent and almost impossible to use as an ASOS in decision making.

Oh look another Lenoblo with trash tier screen, trash tier performance getting 87% score. Not even worth 70%

Quote from: NikoB (shame to moders) on August 11, 2024, 23:11:37since its critical temperature is just around 50C

You can blow even 60C on your screen forever, nothing will break.

An extremely strange review. Allegedly showing that the 7840U delivers performance at least 35% lower than it should at 20W PL1. How could Lenovo do something like this, except for artificial slowdown or the assumption that the review was made under the influence of Intel money? Or, for example, to show the huge loss of the Zen4 Phoenix vs Zen5 line in favor of AMD?

Well, if you believe the temperatures under load - there is a big chance to quickly burn the screen panel, since its critical temperature is just around 50C, and the exhaust of hot air at 50C + is directly on it. A rather strange and very unsafe for the owner's pocket decision by Lenovo.

If you believe to the performance in PL1 mode, the price is overstated by at least $ 700. Too slow a laptop even by the standards of 2023, not to mention the end of summer 2024 ...

What would be the cause of drop in efficiency/battery performance? This is the same CPU/iGPU combination with the T14 and t14s Gen 4, which both perform very well with the same battery size.

What the hell going on with the cpu performance. Its noticeably slower than a ROG ally with basically the same CPU. even the battery is crap. make me wonder if this is broken. are there other reviews of this thing.

There are two kinds of laptops on the market, consumer laptops and business laptops.
It seems that companies try to market business laptops as having better build quality, better durability, etc.
But I have spend a lot of time and I have found no actual studies that confirm this claims. There are only promises from manufacturers not backed by any hard evidence or lab studies.

I think it would be very valuable if notebookcheck could write an article about that.
Can you ask manufacturers about what design standards are used for consumer laptops and for business laptops?
For example, are hinges more durable, e.g. are they designed to withstand more open/close cycles?
Can batteries take more discharging cycles? Are screens of better quality?
Are they build/tested for accidental drops?
I am not sure about that as it seems that nowadays even the cheapest consumer laptops have passed MIL standards.
So what really makes business laptops different from consumer ones?
Maybe business laptops category is just the same quality as comparably priced consumer laptop
but only cost more due to better warranty terms, better customer support/faster response times, better availability of spare parts, better security features?

I don't agree that the best product on the market fits in with mediocre performance.

Bulldozer??? Your software seems buggy.

AMD always have mediocre performance. On other side soldered RAM = NO buy at all.