Another senseless throwaway from the author on the fan.

It is necessary to compare with Lunar Lake, which will be released in September, because real mass deliveries of both Zen5 Strix Point and Lunar Lake will only be in mid-autumn.

The only point where Zen5 Strix Point beats Lunar Lake initially is support for more than 32GB of RAM, because... Intel chips will come with a maximum of 32GB soldered, while Zen5 already soldered at least 64GB, with support for up to 256GB. This is a key difference that could lead to Intel's defeat in the professional and business series market, because... 32GB today in this segment looks simply shameful. So professionals who need 64GB+ will 100% ignore Lunar Lake laptops unless Intel changes official policy and releases chips with 64GB inside the SoC, but the real technology issue...

So formally, Intel, with this shortcoming, seriously canceled out its own sales in the business and professional segment of laptops in the fall of 2024 and the first half of 2025.

Quote from: randon on August 06, 2024, 10:43:06and "3d rendering" is and always will be way out of iGPU reach.

You haven't heard about Strix Halo, have you...

Quote from: you are wrong on August 05, 2024, 21:15:54to give people a decent gaming/content creation/3D modeling experience

You can't just say "you are wrong" and then use "gaming" again.
Content creation doesn't require GPU, it requires hardware codecs.
"3D modelling" can be done on a phone-level GPU, and "3d rendering" is and always will be way out of iGPU reach.

QuoteBoth the systems that were tested on the benchmark featured 32 GB of LPPDR5X RAM (Crucial 32 GB DDR5 4800 MHz kit curr. $83 on Amazon).

Hmm,ok. Thanks for the awesome testing.

IMO Intel's Xe2 will beat RDNA3.5 for sure. RDNA3.5 barely seems to leift IPC at all, so 890M is relying on higher clocks and 33% more cores to beat 780M. Xe2 should have little trouble matching or beating 890M IMO. Also Lunar Lake is targeting that 17W range anyway. Can't wait for the head-to-head. If Lunar Lake is good, I will wait for its successor Panter Lake which will target all U/H and HX class segments and uses Xe3 Celestial.

Quote from: randon on August 05, 2024, 19:58:10

Quote from: GeorgeS on August 05, 2024, 19:42:35AMD's iGPU's are CURRENTLY mostly better

You don't even need iGPU for most productivity uses. All this "iGPU competition" is for some cheap gamers who can't afford a proper desktop, idk. What is the % of those on the laptop market. Powerful iGPUs are a solution is search of a problem.

Not very true at all. iGPUs are being developed so Intel and AMD aren't beholden to Nvidia for graphics performance on the low end. that way they need less partnership bureaucracy/planning/management and obviously lower costs to give people a decent gaming/content creation/3D modeling experience with no help or costs from Nvidia. low end cards in laptops will be scarce in the next 2-3 years.

Quote from: GeorgeS on August 05, 2024, 19:42:35AMD's iGPU's are CURRENTLY mostly better

You don't even need iGPU for most productivity uses. All this "iGPU competition" is for some cheap gamers who can't afford a proper desktop, idk. What is the % of those on the laptop market. Powerful iGPUs are a solution is search of a problem.

I'm sorry but I have issue with your descriptive phrasing on this site.

For example AMD's new iGPU with ~<= %10-15 over the last generation is NOT "a big step up" at all but merely a generational and incremental improvement mainly due to process technology.

While YES, AMD's iGPU's are CURRENTLY mostly better than what Intel has to offer however this is FAIRLY OLD NEWS that unless you have been living under a rock, everyone already knows.

Sorry but many of us readers are growing tired with the "editorial spin" this site bakes into 'news stories' these days.