Quote from: KevinR on September 03, 2024, 17:43:00Lenovo do offer the AMD Ryzen 7 CPU as a CPU option on this model.

They don't. Maybe you were thinking about the T14 G5, because the T14s G5 is Intel only.

Lenovo do offer the AMD Ryzen 7 CPU as a CPU option on this model.

Quote from: Benjamin Herzig on July 26, 2024, 13:14:34Overall CPU performance is +34 % compared with the Thinkpad T14s Gen 1 with the Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U.

This is a blatant lie on your part. It is enough to check 3 key reviews of the Thinkpad/HP series with 4750U. Moreover, with PL1=22-25W.

The average score in CBR15 is 1370 in PL1 mode, while the "hero" of this review with a higher PL1, the average score is less than 1300.

Thus, to the shame of Intel (and your shame in an attempt to defend them with obviously false arguments) the 4-year-old 4750U is on average faster than the 125U from Intel 2024 by 8-10%!

And the noise is lower there under average load! And there are 2 memory slots up to 64GB and the price in the same case is only $ 1100.

Obviously, this is a complete failure of Intel and a complete fiasco of Lenovo with prices (if you believe the indicated prices). Without discounts of up to 50%, no one will buy this garbage from Lenovo with the performance of 4 years ago.

No one on the market needs laptops with Intel. Except for the deliberate criminal conspiracy of manufacturers and Intel, with the criminal connivance of the antitrust authorities of Europe and the USA. It is quite obvious that, as stated in the neighboring review with HP Omen 17.3", manufacturers deliberately do not display built-in USB40, etc., so that against their background, crappy Intel products do not seem so bad. And as I pointed out earlier, recently with the full load of Lunar Lake on TSMC (with the ratio of Intel to AMD market share at 5:1), it is obvious that AMD does not artificially increase supplies. This is not a free market, this is a market of oligopolistic collusion.

All that buyers need is laptops with Zen4+ and nothing more.. We do not need Intel, especially with soldered shameful slow memory and even with shameful 32 GB in the maximum configuration with Lunar Lake SoC. The minimum should be 32 GB and maximum 128 GB, and strictly HBM3 with a 512-1024 bit bus and a bandwidth of at least VRAM integrated on the SoC of at least 300GB/s, or better yet 500+.

We are being sold architectural garbage in 2024 even in the case of AMD igpu.

Quote from: NikoB on July 25, 2024, 13:36:52Laptop with Zen2 performance in 2024 for $1800+?

Overall CPU performance is +34 % compared with the Thinkpad T14s Gen 1 with the Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U. Depends of course on the task, in single core the difference is certainly bigger than in multicore. But, this is also the lowest end version of the T14s Gen 5, with H series CPUs being an option as well. Synthetic GPU performance is also up 53 % vs. the T14s Gen 1 AMD, while the battery life is almost two hours better on the T14s Gen 5.

Thus, I would say that it is not fair to compare it with a Zen2 model. This one is clearly better and faster.

Laptop with Zen2 performance in 2024 for $1800+? What is Lenovo counting on other than sales at a "discount" of 35-40%?

Is this really the best time for OEM's to NOT be offering an AMD option?