Sources are leaking the EMR is also affected.

Quote from: usacomputer on July 13, 2024, 16:20:24Intel's quality in recent years has been a disaster and always behind AMD and Apple, which is where people have focused their purchases.

Writes usacomputer. Do you mean "only in the USA"?! Because, everywhere else, it is blatantly very false.

So to recap...

A good number of advanced users are having instability issues with two generations of Intel's UNLOCKED parts.

So the question is: is it the fault of the parts themselves OR the BIOS/Motherboard settings the users are using?

Are there similar issues with the same generations LOCKED parts?

Humm....

I wonder if these issues also affect the mobile Intel HX CPU`s ?  Meaning 13th and 14th gen ones ?  They are after all binned versions of these affected CPUs made för mobile use .

Intel's quality in recent years has been a disaster and always behind AMD and Apple, which is where people have focused their purchases. It seems that this year we are going down the same Intel path behind AMD and people will look at BlackFriday and Christmas for AMD laptops with better artificial intelligence and better CPU performance and it has just been demonstrated with AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 – Single-core performance record for a laptop CPU on Geekbench

My 13th gen rig crashes randomly. Identical 12th gen rog is fine. I regret my purchases and wish I had gotten AMD instead. I read that people are starting to get their RMA requests denied too. I could not believe the error rates according to Wendell. Something like 1340:3, Intel to AMD in the logs.

Quote from: AMDFanboi on July 13, 2024, 12:44:42I don't believe in this fake news. It seems someone probably paid to spread that. I'm using Intel for so many years and I don't have any problems while with AMD I had burned motherboard, cpu's. Everyone today forgot how many AM5 motherboards burned with cpu's. With 9000 Ryzen series will be burned even more.

I hope you're trolling. What an extremely asinine comment to make regardless.

Just because you don't have issues with your Intel parts doesn't mean the overarching issue doesn't exist. Wendell from Level1Techs and Steve from Gamers Nexus have extensively covered the 13th and 14th-generation instability issues.

Since I know you're an Intel fanboy (ironic given your username) and you're most likely UserBenchmarks himself under a sockpuppet account, you won't even watch these videos, because you're ignorant.

You talk about AMD having chips explode, but you conveniently forgot to mention that the reason why the chips exploded was due to the motherboard makers'(ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI) running BIOS settings that would push AMD 7000 CPUs to premature failure. It wasn't AMD's fault. And for what it's worth, AMD largely replaced the damaged CPUs free of charge. Wendell talks about it in the Level1Techs video at 20:39. Wendell once again mentions the same issue on the Gamers Nexus video at 11:25.

Finally, let's talk about Intel's problems in the past. You have also conveniently forgotten about them as well.

Intel paid Dell up to $1B annually to not use AMD chips between 2003-2006.

Intel also got slapped with a $400 million fine in 2023 for obstructing AMD's market access, specifically with HP, Lenovo, and Acer.

Intel's processors were more susceptible to Spectre and Meltdown, whereas Spectre was only verified to work on AMD processors. Intel had to redesign its processors in 2018 to mitigate this. AMD redesigned their CPUs, but they have had fewer security issues overall.

And finally, something so recent, the only way to have not heard of this is by living under a rock, which you seem to have been doing.

Intel Alder Lake (12th generation) bending sockets. Thermal Grizzly doing all the engineering Intel forgot to do by manufacturing contact plates to have a more even pressure on the contact frame. You see, Intel didn't realize the 12th-generation socket applies higher pressure on one side of the socket.



But sure, tell everyone how the Intel stability issues are "fake news" and how AMD makes subpar quality products while your brand new Intel chip guzzles 50% more power and outputs significantly more heat.

We all know UserBenchmarks is paying you.

Yeah you are clearly spreading fake news yourself

I don't believe in this fake news. It seems someone probably paid to spread that. I'm using Intel for so many years and I don't have any problems while with AMD I had burned motherboard, cpu's. Everyone today forgot how many AM5 motherboards burned with cpu's. With 9000 Ryzen series will be burned even more.