Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 21:05:12Quote from: Peter West on July 12, 2024, 20:09:22Comshare, that's a blast from the past, Peter.Quote from: PeterGrowcott link=msg=602157 date=172078849I bought my first one, an Amstrad PCW 8256 in 1985/quote]
Wow man I remember those , micro-computers theye were calling 'em back in the day.
Phew you must be at least 80 and still gaming. Congrats!!!
I'm 68 now. I remember I was a very early adopter of the Amstrad. It was the UK's first proper computer. For £400, not only did you get the PC & CP/M, you also got a diminutive dot matrix printer & some word processing software called LocoScript. Interestingly, adjusting for inflation, it would cost £1,200 today...which just goes to show what a bloody good deal the LOQ 15 is if only people could get past their own prejudices.
I first got into computing much earlier though at uni, using punched card stacks (yuk, horrible things!). In '77 while doing a student/industrial placement, I got to use a shared dial-up computing service called Comshare to write a phosphoric acid gas scrubbing simulation program in Basic. I very quickly became addicted. Then it was onto a Commodore Pet in '79 for writing my own heat exchanger train simulation programs. For any sort of professional engineer, these dinky little computers were an absolute Godsend.
The PC gaming thing, I only got into because the kids wanted them. Commander Keen, Cosmo's Cosmic Adventures, Duke Nukem & the original Wolfenstein...all break through stuff back then. Happy days!
I was working in a CPA office in '74 (while in night study for degree) and started programming using Comshare and the spreadsheet programming language that was offered. That language later became FCS-EPS out of Wimbledon and spread to the US and Australia on mainframes and later PCs. We used it in a lawsuit in Houston in 1980 to win about $55 million from Bell Telephone.
Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 14:53:26If I say 'okay you win', would you shut up & go away??Start with yourself, a boor and a fool.
Quote from: Peter West on July 12, 2024, 20:09:22Quote from: PeterGrowcott link=msg=602157 date=172078849I bought my first one, an Amstrad PCW 8256 in 1985/quote]
Wow man I remember those , micro-computers theye were calling 'em back in the day.
Phew you must be at least 80 and still gaming. Congrats!!!
I'm 68 now. I remember I was a very early adopter of the Amstrad. It was the UK's first proper computer. For £400, not only did you get the PC & CP/M, you also got a diminutive dot matrix printer & some word processing software called LocoScript. Interestingly, adjusting for inflation, it would cost £1,200 today...which just goes to show what a bloody good deal the LOQ 15 is if only people could get past their own prejudices.
I first got into computing much earlier though at uni, using punched card stacks (yuk, horrible things!). In '77 while doing a student/industrial placement, I got to use a shared dial-up computing service called Comshare to write a phosphoric acid gas scrubbing simulation program in Basic. I very quickly became addicted. Then it was onto a Commodore Pet in '79 for writing my own heat exchanger train simulation programs. For any sort of professional engineer, these dinky little computers were an absolute Godsend.
The PC gaming thing, I only got into because the kids wanted them. Commander Keen, Cosmo's Cosmic Adventures, Duke Nukem & the original Wolfenstein...all break through stuff back then. Happy days!
Quote from: PeterGrowcott link=msg=602157 date=172078849I bought my first one, an Amstrad PCW 8256 in 1985/quote]
Wow man I remember those , micro-computers theye were calling 'em back in the day.
Phew you must be at least 80 and still gaming. Congrats!!!
Quote from: NikoB on July 12, 2024, 11:03:41Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55I pop on some headphones & the noise disappears.obviously a lie.Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55If I want to browse the web or watch YouTube, I'll do it on my phone which seems much more appropriate.I just almost died of laughter - comparing 6" with 16"+. Most of the sites I view are inferior in ergonomics many times over on a smartphone to a large screen. There is simply much less information on one screen (the only plus is ppi 300+, which, to the shame of 99%+ of laptops and monitors, is still not achievable even in 2024). Not to mention the performance of any smartphone, which slows down in the case of desktop versions of sites (which they are still not able to display as is) and quickly drains the battery during heavy surfing.Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55Are you okay mate??Trying to blame another person for mental problems, when he consistently and reasonably points out the obvious problems in the series, reveals that you are mentally unstable. You feel like you bought a shitty series and everything I wrote hit the mark, so you started by insulting me (and moderators easily let this verbal abuse, but they fast erase everything that their advertisers don't like).
And if you were a real buyer of this series, your opinion is a priori biased - after all, you spent money on garbage...Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55As for your nerves, well there's always Valium...Guy, you are seriously ill, you need to see a psychiatrist. Your stupid speech started with insults and ended with them, which shows how annoyed you are by my well-aimed comments. Most likely, you are not a real buyer of this series, but another one will be hired by Lenovo or their marketer.
Quote from: Gibon on July 12, 2024, 12:49:23Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55Are you okay mate??Are you?
Who in their right mind buys a laptop for gaming and uses it stationary?
Quote from: Edgar Ramirez on July 12, 2024, 11:30:11Quote from: PeterGrowcott99% of the time, my laptops are plugged in to a wall socket so that I can play power hungry, graphics intensive games.A desktop will do much better in such a scenario. Plus it will last forever. Which should actually might be important since you moan about 3 years of gaming laptops longevity.
Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55Are you okay mate??Are you?
Quote from: PeterGrowcott99% of the time, my laptops are plugged in to a wall socket so that I can play power hungry, graphics intensive games.A desktop will do much better in such a scenario. Plus it will last forever. Which should actually might be important since you moan about 3 years of gaming laptops longevity.
Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55I pop on some headphones & the noise disappears.obviously a lie.
Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55If I want to browse the web or watch YouTube, I'll do it on my phone which seems much more appropriate.I just almost died of laughter - comparing 6" with 16"+. Most of the sites I view are inferior in ergonomics many times over on a smartphone to a large screen. There is simply much less information on one screen (the only plus is ppi 300+, which, to the shame of 99%+ of laptops and monitors, is still not achievable even in 2024). Not to mention the performance of any smartphone, which slows down in the case of desktop versions of sites (which they are still not able to display as is) and quickly drains the battery during heavy surfing.
Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55Are you okay mate??Trying to blame another person for mental problems, when he consistently and reasonably points out the obvious problems in the series, reveals that you are mentally unstable. You feel like you bought a shitty series and everything I wrote hit the mark, so you started by insulting me (and moderators easily let this verbal abuse, but they fast erase everything that their advertisers don't like).
Quote from: PeterGrowcott on July 12, 2024, 10:36:55As for your nerves, well there's always Valium...Guy, you are seriously ill, you need to see a psychiatrist. Your stupid speech started with insults and ended with them, which shows how annoyed you are by my well-aimed comments. Most likely, you are not a real buyer of this series, but another one will be hired by Lenovo or their marketer.
Quote from: NikoB on July 11, 2024, 12:13:16Horribly slow processor at a monstrous 60W in PL1 (don't forget that its performance when running dgpu is even lower!) for 2024.
The screen is fhd, not 4k. Moreover, even in fhd, this "gaming" laptop is no longer capable of providing 60fps in good quality for 2023/2024 games. At the same time, it is 100% fake in terms of response - there is no trace of a 144Hz screen refresh rate, even in such a shameful resolution and low ppi (owners will 100% spoil their eyesight with 100% always cloudy fonts in Chrome and Edge, only Firefox users ( after additional settings) are freed from this nightmare for the eyes on screens with ppi below 220-230)
Monstrously low efficiency of ddr5 5600 RAM (theoretical bandwidth 5600x16=89.6GB/s).
A shameful cheap QLC SSD without a DRAM buffer, which is a priori unsuitable as a system drive, because... quickly falls down under mixed load.
Disgraceful set of ports - there is nothing on the left at all! There is no TB4 (which means there is no way to connect egpu, except to output a link using one M.2 connector, which will require modification of the case), despite the fact that, as the review showed, it is not able to provide the minimum acceptable 60fps in modern games in ultra quality, even for fhd resolutions.
And to top off the terrible picture of the review - a shameful cooling system that howls wildly (36dBA!) even with a ridiculous 24W consumption, according to the report! Lenovo simply disgraced itself with such a shameful cooling system in a laptop weighing 2.42 kg!!!
Nor work quietly in silence. It is impossible not to play modern games with normal quality on this disgrace Lenovo.
The question is - who and why is this completely idiotic series intended?
At the same time, it is no longer possible to buy a business laptop from stupid Lenovo with power supply from the rear or through a durable and convenient, right-handed, round, angled classic plug for the same money.
Lenovo has produced a bunch of shameful series in recent years, but all of them are passable for both comfortable long-term work and gaming...
I don't understand why you should buy something like this even for $700 - your nerves cost more...
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