My issue with Qualcomm is that I want long battery life and silence but the CPUs and devices are not designed for that.

Quote from: Hotz on June 15, 2024, 17:34:53The real big problem with Qualcomm laptops is..

My issue is more with the form factors and pricing than the chip itself. The whole point of going arm is to get smaller and lighter devices. But the majority of devices it's in are just as big and in some cases even heavier. My almost 5 year old Intel laptop weighs 2.84 lbs. Many of these SDXE devices are 3 lbs or more. You can get g14 with hawk point + rtx 4060 dgpu that weighs only slightly more. Also, where is this chip in handhelds? Yeah, they made some really low effort androids ones previously but nothing with this new SoC and Windows as of yet. Many of these devices are costing almost $1200-$1400 for only 16GB + 512GB configs. That's not very much or that competitive. We know recall takes quite a bit of storage,  as does running LLMs locally for ram. Upgrading to 32GB + 1TB is pushing the cost of many to $1600 or more. At that point you can get an x86 laptop with similar configuration AND have a dgpu for the price.

Not having SVE2 (arm's version of avx-512) is another problem. Though perhaps not such a big deal as neither does apple M-silicon either yet (atleast the 256bit version in h/w afaik) and it seems nvidia's upcoming partnership SoC with mediatek is launching very late next year, so they've some time.

I can wait for app ecosystem to catchup. But if they're expecting me to pay apple prices for a decently configured machine.. if I am gonna be spending 2k+, it better come with a 12 tflop ps5 caliber adreno igpu. Aka equivalent to m2 max, since the price of older mac's is dropping and its a far more mature ecosystem.

The real big problem with Qualcomm laptops is, that lots of software doesn't run correctly, and even games must be emulated, like in Linux. In fact Linux with Wine (which is not an emulator some dumbass will say, but eventually serves a similar purpose) runs Windows software often better than Qualcomm. Thus there are not a lot of reasons to buy a Qualcomm laptop...

well, considering Intel still working on their drivers, for Qualcomm, it would be good if most apps could run...

This is not for a smartphone but for the windows laptops and tablet PC's, it mentions X Plus and X Elite CPU's

Quote from: Neenyah on June 14, 2024, 18:13:07I will just quote one excellent and accurate comment from under the

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That sounds like Samsung propaganda. And it's useless bc its trapped on a phone. Why do you need so much GPU power on a phone? This falls on the same problems iPads are right now with the M-chips

I will just quote one excellent and accurate comment from under the source article:

Quote"don't forget though that the GPU in the Galaxy S24 is the BEST GPU ever made in perf/watt. Geekerwan said it beat everyone, Apple, AMD, NVidia, all of them."