Quote from: Willie Loman on May 17, 2024, 14:26:20Pour the green Kool Aid down the drain. Just give us simple and reliable ICE vehicles.

You've drunk too much kool aid, there is no suck thing as simple and reliable ICE vehicle, never was, and never will be as its an oxymoron

wow that sounds great! its got enough battery range for everyday commuting, plenty of power, and huge hybrid range. I bet its drives good too

QuoteJust give us simple and reliable ICE vehicles.

ICE-only vehicles are not and should not be the future, if not for the emissions benefits then for the convenience of rarely visiting a petrol stop.

PHEVs like these Golf vehicles are a good stop-gap while we wait for better infrastructure and battery tech for the masses. At least for those who can already reliably charge at home or work.

Pour the green Kool Aid down the drain. Just give us simple and reliable ICE vehicles.

I don't think the author knows what a PHEV is.

That is definitely more than most by a decent margin, though I will note not to compare US range to EU range estimates as US test is slightly stricter and will likely be 60-65 miles on the ehybrid, which is still pretty much more than most by a decent margin

Quote from: KenMac on May 16, 2024, 21:13:08The new Golf eHybrid and GTE have exceptional all-electric range. For comparison, this Kelly Blue Book table of 2024 PHEV all-electric ranges shows none above 45 miles.

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That headline still states "less than stellar range" and the text improperly compares it to a hybrid bicycle instead of to all the other PHEV vehicles. That really should be edited promptly, right?

Yeah I was going to say the same. The author is on drugs if he thinks a PHEV will get huge range like an EV. These ranges are more than enough and I can guarantee any one I will not be buying an EV before solid state batteries are a thing, prices and weight are slashed. For me PHEV all the way for next 5 years.

Agreed. These ranges are roughly double what most other PHEVs offer. Not only that, the charge speed is also miles (per hour) ahead of the competition, even not counting the DCFC support!

For comparison, the 2024 Toyota Prius Prime lists 44 miles AER and is burdened by a woefully-anachronistic charging limit of 3.5kW. The Golf vehicles here will not force drivers who wish to use public charging to occupy the stations for the disproportionate amounts of time that the Toyota Prius Prime does.

Of course, critical questions remain regarding the percentage of the battery pack's total capacity these two new vehicles allow the driver to use, as well as the cell chemistry. These factors will influence how often they should actually be charged to the 100% displayed SoC that would enable these quoted ranges.

The new Golf eHybrid and GTE have exceptional all-electric range. For comparison, this Kelly Blue Book table of 2024 PHEV all-electric ranges shows none above 45 miles.

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That headline still states "less than stellar range" and the text improperly compares it to a hybrid bicycle instead of to all the other PHEV vehicles. That really should be edited promptly, right?