IMHO: Frankly I see the market as FRAGMENTED. How many is what is debatable.

While there will always be corporations armed with IT departments and armies of Professional workers using highly specialized applications. Currently many of those applications WILL NOT RUN on (or even be remotely useful) portable hardware like laptops, tablets and the like. (many of these applications cost +$50K USD a year per seat and require a high end 'workstation' class computer to be useful)

The above applications are unlikely to be recompiled for a different CPU anytime soon.

Then there are the 'lighter duty' and more generic processes and procedures that make use of fairly inexpensive and generic applications and software packages. These tasks and applications can run on almost anything.

While many of the consumer and non-professional uses of computers have moved to our 'smart phones', tablets and other devices only the "gamers" seem to have need for specialized hardware/software to run their games.

Quote from: Damian on April 24, 2024, 10:09:38yeah, just brush aside the fact that it's 100% more efficient than Intel (eg, 5-10 years ahead of Intel). Obviously native software is still in its infancy, but even emulating x86 it will beat out Intel. And you'll be surprised how quickly native stuff comes out. Here's a not exhaustive list, but fairly maintained: armrepo(dot)ver(dot)lt/ most other stuff can be emulated fine until native comes.

I'm not brushing anything aside.

I could have a laptop with 1 week battery life, great. Again, what's the point if I can't use any software?
And I'm talking about real professional apps, not Android bullshit micro-apps

Microsoft tried its luck with ARM, it failed.
Apple did it, it's a niche market. And it also showed there is a big drop in performance & efficiency for emulated apps.

The reality of the market is this today : why would software company invest money to adapt and compile their product for a niche market. Especially when they will be sponsored and pressured by AMD & Intel not to do it.

Don't forget pretty much the entire Android library can be ported over with almost no work involved since Android built on Linux for ARM.

Quote from: toto1234 on April 23, 2024, 07:08:58They can push all the benchmark numbers they want.

Without a strong software catalog and developper support, it will remain a niche product.
It's the same issue with Linux, the OS is great but the software catalog is meh.

yeah, just brush aside the fact that it's 100% more efficient than Intel (eg, 5-10 years ahead of Intel). Obviously native software is still in its infancy, but even emulating x86 it will beat out Intel. And you'll be surprised how quickly native stuff comes out. Here's a not exhaustive list, but fairly maintained: armrepo(dot)ver(dot)lt/ most other stuff can be emulated fine until native comes.

They can push all the benchmark numbers they want.

Without a strong software catalog and developper support, it will remain a niche product.
It's the same issue with Linux, the OS is great but the software catalog is meh.