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Posted by Electrons Matter
 - July 09, 2024, 17:13:45
At some point in the next ten years an EV battery will be sufficient to drive a compact car coast to coast on a single charge. The battery will be safe, solid state, capable of rapid charging, and have at least 5000 charge cycles while retaining 80% capacity. It will likely last longer than the car itself...especially given that it would rarely drop to 20% charge or need to be 100% charged. When the car is ready to be replaced, the battery can then become a storage device for the home. There will be no need for any "range anxiety" in the relatively near future.
Posted by Kent
 - April 10, 2024, 02:12:23
Quote from: Didier on April 04, 2024, 16:54:13You won't need 800 miles of range all the time.  500 miles is more than enough for everyday use.  You can rent a Long range battery once a year with a 1000 mile range for when you drive from NY to FL.  Also you will only need charging stations on interstates, because nobody will use the local ones.
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Quote from: Krystal cane on April 05, 2024, 03:52:26And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Posted by Randy chan
 - April 05, 2024, 17:32:57
When solid state batteries become mainstream sometime in the future it'll benefit EV's by increasing ranges by 3 to 5 times which is very significant. In addition it'll also greatly reduce charging times as well as having longer battery lifespan and most of all, it'll be much safer and less likely to catch fire or explode like lithium ion batteries sometimes do. In addition, solid state batteries will be ideal for portable power supply units, aviation, and mobile devices such as phones and laptops. Solid state batteries will definitely be a game changer.
Posted by NikoB
 - April 05, 2024, 11:36:01
Another fake. We've already seen all those hundreds of lies from startups over the past 20 years. And in the end, there is no revolution, but an extremely slow and boring evolution of batteries.

Even if some startup actually managed to make a revolution, I can bet anything that a greedy global business would quickly buy this decision and shelve it or release it into production in strictly defined shares.
Posted by Antonofthewoods
 - April 05, 2024, 11:34:08
Assuming a good number of cycle times (3k+), this basically solves our energy problems. While most people would be reticent to participate in a two-way grid if they might not be able to get to work tomorrow, if you tell the system to leave you with a good 300kms then most people would willingly participate. Add a home battery pack with half a car's worth of batteries and we can just go crazy on the solar, and then recharge the car with wind after the sun goes down. How about also giving the office a bit if required, or the other way on a super sunny day? It just makes everything a lot easier. Assuming we can find enough cheap copper of course.

But let's wait until we see thousands of packs coming off the assembly line per day before getting too excited shall we...
Posted by ElectricAll
 - April 05, 2024, 09:10:45
Elon musk's manganese? How did they mine manage out of skin musk? Or are you saying Elon musk bought the manager and have it to them to use? Maybe you heard Elon mention manganese after he heard about the research they were doing and you mistakenly thought it was an original idea he came up with first?
At any rate, this wasn't Elon musk's manganese that was used but the periodic table's manganese.
Posted by Krystal cane
 - April 05, 2024, 03:52:26
And the energy that's required to fill these batteries comes from where? Have you seen the lines for cars alignment for test listed supercharged it gets pretty large now you want to have a bigger battery which will take even more energy 😂
Posted by A
 - April 04, 2024, 20:59:04
Quote from: Fsj on April 03, 2024, 14:09:25Only time will tell if they fixed the dry battery's vastly increased potential to fail or burst into flames due to micro-shorts compared to wet types.

You have it backwards, wet ones contain a liquid flurocarbon electrolyte that makes them more likely to catch on fire

Quote from: Scott O on April 04, 2024, 13:52:59I just realized that charging stations will not be AS necessary in the future.

Pretty much, the more range EVs have, the less dependent they are on charging stations
Posted by Didier
 - April 04, 2024, 16:54:13
You won't need 800 miles of range all the time.  500 miles is more than enough for everyday use.  You can rent a Long range battery once a year with a 1000 mile range for when you drive from NY to FL.  Also you will only need charging stations on interstates, because nobody will use the local ones.
Posted by Scott O
 - April 04, 2024, 13:52:59
I just realized that charging stations will not be AS necessary in the future.
Posted by Joel
 - April 04, 2024, 05:18:31
In my opinion, 800 miles is the point where more range isn't needed.  That's the point where 1) A drive could be done in a day without charging and 2) towing/racks/degredation/cold range losses still makes the EV useful on long road trips (probably will still get at least 150-200 miles per charge in the worst conditions).
Posted by vertigo
 - April 03, 2024, 16:19:28
At a certain point, more range is really not needed, and so the nice thing about higher density is the ability not to get such extreme ranges, but to have a significantly smaller battery pack capable of still providing 500+ miles, reducing the weight which in turn will increase the range a bit more as well as reduce tire wear and improve safety. Of course, higher density also means more catastrophic failure when it occurs, so safety really needs to be paramount. And any potential impact on longevity needs to be considered, too.
Posted by Fsj
 - April 03, 2024, 14:09:25
Only time will tell if they fixed the dry battery's vastly increased potential to fail or burst into flames due to micro-shorts compared to wet types.
Posted by Redaktion
 - April 03, 2024, 11:33:22
Solid-state battery developer Tailan used manganese in the cathode and other technology breakthroughs to create cells that offer the highest energy density of any current lithium battery.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Solid-state-battery-with-record-energy-density-uses-Elon-Musk-s-manganese-for-1200-miles-of-EV-range.822139.0.html