Kurze Frage: ist der USB-C Anschluss an der linken Seite wirklich Thunderbolt 4? Sie behaupten dass er ist, aber Lenovo Deutschland sagt dass er nur USB-C 3.2 gen 2 ist. Auf dem Laptop steht aber doch das Thunderbolt-Symbol. Kann es sein, dass Deutschland ein anderes Variant hat?

Quote from: Ben FFM on April 01, 2024, 00:34:12ahso und bevor hier alle rummeckern! das ist Preis Leistung der Beste laptop den man kaufen kann, ich habs nicht bereut. Zudem bietet das HDR Display (wss kaum ein gaming notebook hat) eine richtig gutes Dynamisches Helles Displaypanel.ich habe neben Razer und MSI kein besseres Notebool gesehen was so viel Fun macht egal ob beim Gaming oder Videobearbeitung. Mit Samsung 990 Pro SSDs fliegt die Kiste regelrecht.

Geht mit der Kiste Echtzeit-Audio Bearbeitung (bezüglich der DPC Latenzen)?

Quote from: Ben FFM on April 01, 2024, 00:34:12Zudem bietet das HDR Display

Only screens with the True Black HDR nameplate support HDR10.
First, understand the technology. No Lenovo laptop supports HDR10. Even those sold with AMOLED screens.

ahso und bevor hier alle rummeckern! das ist Preis Leistung der Beste laptop den man kaufen kann, ich habs nicht bereut. Zudem bietet das HDR Display (wss kaum ein gaming notebook hat) eine richtig gutes Dynamisches Helles Displaypanel.ich habe neben Razer und MSI kein besseres Notebool gesehen was so viel Fun macht egal ob beim Gaming oder Videobearbeitung. Mit Samsung 990 Pro SSDs fliegt die Kiste regelrecht.

wie lustig ich hab das 4090ger Modell aus den USA inkl. Zoll für knapp 3000-3100 Euro gekauft. US- Tastatur und es ist schon ein halbes jahr her. jetzt erst kommen die modelle so langsam nach Deutschland und dann noch für ein Preis zudem man in europa wohl wieder fast 500-1000 euro mehr für die 4090 variante bezahlen würde.Versand aus den USA war genau 1-2 tage extrem schnell für die Zollabwicklung war der Händler zuständig das ging einfach und Problemlos. :).

AMD versions with exactly the same batteries in capacity always have longer battery life. Which is confirmed by Lenovo in psref for almost all models.

A "10nm" laptop will never have the same, much less longer, operating time from battery than a processor made at "4/5" nm from TSMC.

AMD versions with exactly the same batteries in capacity always have longer battery life. Which is confirmed by Lenovo in psref for almost all models.

A "10nm" laptop will never have the same, much less longer, operating time than a processor made at "4/5" nm from TSMC.

Intel is several years behind AMD in terms of energy efficiency and is clearly inferior in absolute multi-threaded performance to last year's 7945HX.

6h wifi mit einem 100 wattstunden akku!??? das ist doch der absolute schrott, wieso wird das nicht abgewertet, selbst wenn das ein "gaming" laptop ist..

Quote from: TSiAhmat on March 26, 2024, 16:15:25Dumb Question: What is the benefit of more Frames (other than Reaction-Times of the Device and that you can slap it on the box with *WOW* 240 FPS).

Reducing input lag, getting better frame times on average and smoother overall experience. Two examples; first - Doom (both 2016 and Eternal) have impeccable optimisation so even 75 fps there feels smoother and nicer than many games at 200 fps. Why? Because frames are equally distributed over full second which leads to minimal (if any) input lag at lower fps.
 
Second example would be Counter Strike 2 where even 300 fps feels horrible and "stuttery" because of poor optimisation and whack frame times where you can get 300 fps but 280 of them is distributed over first 2/3rds of one second (let's round it to 700 ms) and the last 20 frames are in the last 3rd (let's round it to 300 ms), meaning that you have 300 fps technically speaking but constant stutters. In the previous example with Doom at 75 you get 25+25+25 frames for each third of each second. Bump it up to 144 fps on a 144 Hz screen and it's unbelievably nice, immersive and enjoyable experience.

Lower refresh rate will emphasize those stutters even more so you get to the point where CS2 is literally unplayable at 60 Hz screen irrelevant of hardware specs. Slot a 4090 in and it will still be bad overall experience with anything less than 120-144, but 165-240 ideally as the game is not really demanding but it is just badly optimised in its current state.
 
Input lag is a horrible thing to experience but that's mostly on 60-120 Hz screens, past that you won't really notice anything. Basically it all feels like you are moving around through a swamp of oil, every action on the screen is just noticeably delayed after you perform that move with your hand(s).

Now pair those two (bad frametimes and input lag) and you know what's the point of high fps and fast panels.

That being said, unless you are a professional competitive eSports player you 99.99% sure won't need anything past 240 Hz that soon. Cap the fps at 233 on a 240 Hz screen (240 - 3% to eliminate input lag) and you are golden. Heck even plenty of games are perfectly playable at 60-100 fps, you don't need more than that in 95% of them.

Check this vid also, as a quick and nice info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgyNDLzmfGU

Jarrod on YouTube constantly measures the total input lag in the system and it always turns out that the overall response in the control loop is no better than 60-70Hz.
youtu.be/FwUoLbMhiWk?t=899

4k@120Гц (real 120) ideal screen for all laptops. And for games(in fhd with max fps) and for video in 4k/fhd. And for very clear text and graphics with ppi 220-230+. 18" 16:10 for home and work.

Dumb Question: What is the benefit of more Frames (other than Reaction-Times of the Device and that you can slap it on the box with *WOW* 240 FPS).

I feel like having a good/better 120 Hertz would be more beneficial to the end User.

Lenovo laptops are becoming more technologically boring. More and more overtime and less and less desirable.

As I predicted more than a year ago, Lenovo cut out part of the technology for marketing reasons from the L7 series for the launch of L9 Seria.

A shameful antique 1Gbps 25 years ago in models 2023 and this semi-2024, instead of 2.5 Gbps in the models of 2022, is immediately striking. Buyers of such laptops want to see at least 5GBPS.
They also cut out TB3/USB40 in L5Pro/L7 on discrete chips below 4080. Although it was previously with everyone. It looks especially stupid and shameful against the background of Ideapad GAMING 2022 with TB4 Port ...

Instead of the output of the second port, TB4, they brought out only the shameful USB-C 3.2 Gen2.

As usual, a keyboard with a small key of keys and insufficient tactile dedication.

Judging by the author, the noise is simply the wildest even in surfing, 45db in IDLE! How can this be used at home or at work? I don't understand...

The screen is again mediocre. Bad contrast, slow response (fake "240Hz"), low PPI, insufficient for clear text and graphics in chromium/edge (and FF with default settings) with constantly muddy fonts due to the error in the rendering system of text rendering for many years. In addition, it is clearly visible that the mobile 4080, losing 1.5 times with a trumped chip, like 4090, is already on the verge of possible games possible.
Here, it would just be as beneficial as possible 4K@120Hz (real 120). It is at least easy to switch to FHD mode with perfect pixel sharpness to increase FPS at times in games (with honest full rendering, rather than fraudulent crutches DLSS), moreover, the panel can easily be "dispersed" to "480" Hz. And from the battery no one stops using 4K@60Hz or FHD.

As usual, everyone will solve discounts, because The price is clearly overstated by $ 800-900.

If there were 64GB of operations and 2x2TB 990Pro SSD from Samsung with DRAM buffer from the plant, this would still explain a somehow high price ...

Sadly sees Lenovo from the market leader in 2020-2021, rolled into the catch-up, real leaders, like Asus.

The only reason why the Lenovo series is still a relative popularity - keyboard with a full -fledged numbered. If Asus had not been lying a fool, arranging a wild mess with a numpad in different series and squeezed out a maximum of SOC with the AMD (taking out the obligatory 2xusb40), Lenovo would really have to sit on the bench ..

"Klassenüblich hohe Emissionen lassen sich nicht vermeiden."

Klassenüblich = Blödsinn