Quote from: Abc on February 20, 2024, 01:43:57AMD noticed Intel is not able to offer any competitive products, so they stop trying to push their best product.

a pretty stupid idea if they have the resource at TSMC to produce large quantities. We don't know this for sure. Because it is unlikely that they will be able to raise the price so much as to justify the loss of market share - and they are losing it again in laptops, because Intel is dumping. They can afford it, having an order of magnitude greater profit.

AMD's task (if they are not Intel's anti-monopoly gasket) is to maximize the x86 market share. Unless, of course, they see any prospects in the x86 market at all. Because other behavior (with a positive assessment of the future x86 market) shows the non-market nature of AMD...

But increasing market share must be accompanied by similar dumping as Intel, and they cannot afford it.

When there are only two left on the x86 market, this is no longer competition or a game, but an oligopoly with clearly defined boundaries - "red" lines.

Most likely, both may be overthrown by upstart companies like Qualcomm and Mediatek if the laptop and desktop market begins to rapidly drift from x86 to arm processors. But this is being held back for obvious reasons - a huge base of accumulated software and millions of professional developers for the x86 platform with enormous inertia in retraining.

Therefore, we do not yet have any special alternative, with the exception of Apple with ARM, but this is a different league and a special ecosystem that is either not available to the majority of the population or is simply not satisfactory in terms of content and price/quality/performance ratio.

Quote from: core ultra great ? on January 02, 2024, 01:57:09

Quote from: NikoB on December 14, 2023, 19:23:18What's the problem with Zen4 Phoenix? It is nowhere to be found, not even in the USA! Sane models for 7840U! And the same will happen with the virtual Zen

All! And sell, sell, sell! But there is NOT a single such model on the market! Amazing!!!

I'm wondering if AMD is just showing off,  samples of 7840u for reviewers and limited yeilds. they may not expect to sell to consumers. It could be only to ad, show off for themselves and for tsmc, and sell their ripper server stuff.

I'm sure there is a reason behind that, something they could sell by millions, why they wouldn't...

It's definitely not yield. TSMC 5/4nm is very mature now. It is simply greed. AMD noticed Intel is not able to offer any competitive products, so they stop trying to push their best product. And instead use remaining and segmentation to offer poor products such as 7730/7520 to maximize profits. A few short years ago you can get their then latest zen 2 based r7 for $600. Today you have to pay at least $900 for the zen 4 rdna 3 r7. Anything less will get you some combination of older tech and cut down specs.

It is just like the 2014 Intel becoming lazy when AMD had their bulldozer moment. Except in reverse. (Nvidia too. 3050 launched with 4GB RAM because they knew AMD with any amount of VRAM can't compete, so they cut every corner in their low end offerings to upsell you) None of these companies are your friend, they will keep offering uncompetitive products as long as their competitor cannot compete .

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 18:07:29

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07Walled Garden

Is a good thing for mobile devices.

No. Absolutely not for me :) Wallen garden ( extremely  close software and haedware) leads to monopolistic abuse, lack of innovation, price increase, and privacy issues, all at same time. It's always been like that and still is.

Quote from: NikoB on December 14, 2023, 19:23:18What's the problem with Zen4 Phoenix? It is nowhere to be found, not even in the USA! Sane models for 7840U! And the same will happen with the virtual Zen

All! And sell, sell, sell! But there is NOT a single such model on the market! Amazing!!!

I'm wondering if AMD is just showing off,  samples of 7840u for reviewers and limited yeilds. they may not expect to sell to consumers. It could be only to ad, show off for themselves and for tsmc, and sell their ripper server stuff.

I'm sure there is a reason behind that, something they could sell by millions, why they wouldn't...

Anyway I see comparing 155h to m3 a good thing, also drivers windows 11 and thread manager v2.1, SOC codec, all that like  apple's ultra optimized os for their proc. Intel 4 far from TSMC 4nm, still I want to believe it can be great.

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 18:57:06

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 18:46:45I have explained precisely why accepting the iCloud terms is not an option for me ever even temporarily for seconds.

This is not serious

One of the greatest achievements of mankind are human and basic rights. The iCloud terms violate some human and basic rights. Accepting the iCloud terms means abandoning some of the human and basic rights. Only few things are even more serious than that. In particular, for me.

QuoteCharger also lost of course?

I cannot lose it as I only use it at home. Its Apple cable was the worst cable I have ever had so I had to replace it a few years ago by what is now my worst cable. Currently it works but it is planned obsolesence.

The carger is also a security risk in two ways: it comprises two parts so that Apple saves a few cents at the user's risk of they breaking apart; the electric protection on its pins is so weak that it vanishes, Apple saves a few cents at the user's risk of touching conductive parts.

Beware: whenever you carelessly make a joke, actual harm needs to be addressed.

QuoteYour problem is lasting for months.

Nonsense. Not months but years!

QuoteNow New Year is an excuse.

Only today I have learned (from you) of another possibility of a cause, with which it makes sense to make another support request attempt. Recall that, during my previous related support phone call, I was already so insisting to be connected to a supervising manager.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 18:46:45I have explained precisely why accepting the iCloud terms is not an option for me ever even temporarily for seconds.

This is not serious

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 18:46:45Can you please accept reality? The 8 years old battery

Charger also lost of course? )))

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 18:46:45you do not expect me to spend New Year's Eve at hotlines

Your problem is lasting for months. Now New Year is an excuse. )

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 18:46:45iCloud terms, notches, small arrow keys, missing bookmark exports, upsellings, unrepairability, bugs, Walled Garden

Aha

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 18:46:45Microsoft is no saint, but almost in comparison to Apple.

Message from alternate universe. This made my day.

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 17:55:15Of course you did, probably were using Find My Device or something.

I touched this icon to put it in a misc folder and I think eventually it became possible to deinstall so I did.

Quote

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07The third option is not for me

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07The second option involves risks

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07The first option presumes

Excuses.

Sorry, but these are not excuses but my careful decisions.

Third option: I have explained precisely why accepting the iCloud terms is not an option for me ever even temporarily for seconds.

Second option: Can you please accept reality? The 8 years old battery is a major concern when starting a process that might exceed it. That big companies screw up accounts is a real possibility. Besides, I am not naive: if I remove an account with an attached purchase, I cannot expect a right to that purchase if temporarily I am without account; I can only hope for mercy.

First option: you do not expect me to spend New Year's Eve at hotlines, do you?

Those popups waste me hours over the years - of course, I want them to end (instead of, as you suggest, enjoying suffering and excuses).

Quotethere will be no fuel

LOL. You forgot the contents of the iCloud terms, notches, small arrow keys, missing bookmark exports, upsellings, unrepairability, bugs, Walled Garden etc.

QuoteSo I guess Windows terms of service, telemetry and ads have a different vibe.

They do. Hint: no outright criminal activity, deactivated telemetry and ads, no popups (especially not at random times when using my computers). Microsoft is no saint, but almost in comparison to Apple.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07Walled Garden

Is a good thing for mobile devices.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07As I have never created any iCloud account by my active action,

Of course you did, probably were using Find My Device or something.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07The third option is not for me

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07The second option involves risks

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07The first option presumes

Excuses. Just admit you don't want to do anything because situation is actually satisfying and if you fix it there will be no fuel for your Apple vendetta.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07Windows

So I guess Windows terms of service, telemetry and ads have a different vibe. )))

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 17:32:07Do you think Apple would apply my suggestion?

Of course not, yours will be a single request there probably. )) They have more important stuff to attend to.

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 15:12:40It's not asking to accept new terms if you haven't created/used iCloud account before.

I have meticulously noticed what is asked.
- What is asked about the iCloud terms before having an iCloud account is independent of whether one has, or has not, an iCloud account.
- The question is whether one accepts, or does not accept, the iCloud terms.
- The iCloud terms are in their current version or the version current at the time of introducing a particular OS version.
- The answer choice is between "Not now" versus "Yes" (or "Accept") or some such semantically equivalent phrase in German.

QuoteCall Apple and ask them to close your iCloud account. Takes couple days. You will lose everything in it.
Or log out of Apple ID on device and make a new one.
Or accept the terms and close your account yourself.

I see.

The third option is not for me.

The second option involves risks of not being able to recreate the same AppleID and of losing purchased apps / subscriptions (only one, but still). Therefore, I cannot choose the second option.

The first option presumes that I have an iCloud account. As I have never created any iCloud account by my active action, this would mean that Apple would have created it against my will. Nevertheless, I can indeed try to contact the Apple support and find out whether such is the case and can be changed, and whether that would affect the popup etc. terror. Maybe in January. Thanks for the suggestion!

QuoteIsn't getting rid of it a good news for you? You will finally get Android tablet with all the proper spying on you.

Your sarcasm is unfair as I have avoided Android for also this reason. My OS preferences are Windows or Linux.

There is also a commercial necessity to have some iDevice however old because some contents / communication is only available there and I need access once every few months.

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Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 15:05:16there ought to be the option "never".

Open a ticket with Apple support.

To beg for replacement of "Not now" by "Never" in Popups? Do you think Apple would apply my suggestion? I have not even dreamt of such a possibility of paradigm change from world-wide uniform service and Walled Garden to a glimmer of friendliness towards the customer. Ok, maybe I will beg and report about Apple's reaction...

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 15:05:16No.

It's not asking to accept new terms if you haven't created/used iCloud account before.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 15:05:16Factory reset is a punishment

Call Apple and ask them to close your iCloud account. Takes couple days. You will lose everything in it.
Or log out of Apple ID on device and make a new one.
Or accept the terms and close your account yourself.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 15:05:16especially when an old battery generates the risk that the iPad won't survive the attempt

Isn't getting rid of it a good news for you? You will finally get Android tablet with all the proper spying on you.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 15:05:16there ought to be the option "never".

Open a ticket with Apple support.

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 14:42:11Maybe you've had something critical enabled

No.

Quoteand now to continue to use it you have to accept the new terms.

I do not have to accept the terms in their at that time same, and later slightly revised, versions because I can and do always click Not Now.

This is Apple DNA. "Not Now" also appears for other things because Apple dislikes the endusers' "Never". Similarly, one needs to disable each individual app when one wants to disable all. Apple always thinks it knows better than the enduser what he needs and always maintains the Walled Garden.

In particular, the change to removing the iCloud terms rejecting option during WLAN OS updates and the Apple service confirming that this is intention prove that it is by design.

Besides, things have become increasingly worse during the previous years: of the kinds of iCloud terror, some started only months after the first kinds. More kinds of popups, then also appearing on the lock screen.

Recall that frequencies of popups has varied during different periods but have been consistent during each period. This also indicates Apples intention. During the first ca. two months, shock therapy with ca. 6 popups per day. Then for a week no popups (either Apple was discussing whether to continue its terror or it set an excuse so that one cannot say "on each day" but can only say "on each day except for one week"). Then 1 or 2 popups per day (might be 2 on some days due to different time zones or login times, so maybe it is 1 for every particular 24h, which I could not identify yet, e.g., 1 per PST calender day).

QuoteFactory reset your iPad and pick "set up later" when you are asked to set up iCloud.

Factory reset is a punishment, especially when an old battery generates the risk that the iPad won't survive the attempt.

I do not want to be punished even more but I want Apple to stop its terror.

"set up later" is not a solution - there ought to be the option "never".

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 31, 2023, 14:34:03As to the WLAN OS update, Apple support has confirmed that I cannot disable iCloud terms any more but that I am required to use LAN OS update to keep rejecting the iCloud terms.

Maybe you've had something critical enabled and now to continue to use it you have to accept the new terms.
Factory reset your iPad and pick "set up later" when you are asked to set up iCloud.

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 12:22:10You can disable everything iCloud completely [...]
MacOS/iOS lets you turn off telemetry on one of first screens during device setup.

So, on my iPad, how do I permanently disable the following?
- iCloud terms popup on the lock screen
- different kinds of iCloud terms popups occurring at random times when using the iPad
- red number on the main screen referring to iCloud terms in the on-device Apple ID settings
- iCloud terms reminder in the on-device Apple ID settings
- the missing option to accept the basic terms without also accepting the iCloud terms during WLAN update of the OS

You say that I can disable everything iCloud completely - I think that only Apple can disable it on their servers, where some time ago they enabled it for my iPad independently of my OS updates.

As to the WLAN OS update, Apple support has confirmed that I cannot disable iCloud terms any more but that I am required to use LAN OS update to keep rejecting the iCloud terms.

Quote from: A on December 31, 2023, 11:45:19

Quote from: mixed bag on December 31, 2023, 11:26:26apple Wallen garden ( especially on software)

It's about iOS (and it's a good thing for mobile device actually, keeps users protected and developers fed).
You can run anything on Mac, including Windows. Back in Intel days you could even use Windows as main OS.

Quote from: mixed bag on December 31, 2023, 11:26:26privacy ( they just hide things  better...)

Have no evidence = they just hide it better? Okay.

Didn't wrote that for  debate. Anyway it's been proven many times ago. Like just a single touch  on Apple's store send 100kb of private JSON data whatever the privacy settings are. It's just crazy. And  Apple simply hide, and they leak and use private data at least as much as others.

Also can't install easily any software on mac. I read about  for c.acked software, I agree, not the best case. it's a complicated and unreliable process of signature workaround. What I read is enough for me to not want to try their store at all. I tried iphone two times, and mac using a few times are work, it was  more than enough to be convinced myself it's the most Wallen garden ever existed and it's always been like that. If some like it, it's fine, just not my cup of tea, I need tweaking and some control of the underlying myself.