Quote from: Kevin 90 on December 29, 2023, 22:11:09It depends how the crash actually happened. As you can see the Toyota took the entire impact of the cyber truck at the wheel well, whereas the force of the Toyta was on the side of the truck.

This guy's an idiot...

Look at his list of published articles - every single one is either a hit piece on Tesla, or a puff piece for a German automaker.

100% shill.

Quote from: davidm on December 30, 2023, 14:39:26Compared to typical materials and weights, yes.

It's steel vs. steel.

Weight is the real factor, but Toyota could be damaged even worse if it hit a loaded haul truck or any other heavier SUV. It's not about "transferring all energy" in a magic way. The same Toyota will wreck you without noticeable damage if you try to use that "energy transferring" body panel as a shield.

Quote from: A on December 30, 2023, 13:55:07

Quote from: davidm on December 30, 2023, 13:35:44The Cybertruck transfers all the energy to the other vehicle.

Yeah, totally, Cybertruck's 1.4-1.8mm panels are like a f*cking Captain America shield.
(Sarcasm)

Compared to typical materials and weights, yes.

Quote from: davidm on December 30, 2023, 13:35:44The Cybertruck transfers all the energy to the other vehicle.

Yeah, totally, Cybertruck's 1.4-1.8mm panels are like a f*cking Captain America shield.
(Sarcasm)

It's not normal. Current car designs absorb impact in their panels/crumple zones, with the frame providing protection. The panels are relatively easy to replace. The Cybertruck is very heavy, has steel panels and almost no crumple zone, it transfers all the energy to the other vehicle.  The panels are very difficult to replace. What's going to happen, which also happened with SUVs, is "geniuses" are going to decide they want the more "safe" (aggressive, transfers all the danger) vehicle. Society could go in the direction of smaller, efficient, purpose built cars, which would be safer for everyone and have much less environmental impact, but Cybertruck by its design wants to go to a "Mad Max" world, and it being electric doesn't even make much sense since they're so big and heavy. And all because of Musk's ego creating a willingness to walk away from eco credibility.

The irony, of course, is that "Mad Max" the character would probably prefer small efficient vehicles, since he's aggressed by the Cybertruck outcome.

IMO regulators should not have let this thing on the road. Musk could create a fantastic pickup that is not inherently a hazard. Regulators are too timid these days (probably because extreme people are so extreme these days).

If everyone is alive both cars did their job fine. The rest is marketing. Crashes with one car totaled and the other having just couple scratches happen every day.

It depends how the crash actually happened. As you can see the Toyota took the entire impact of the cyber truck at the wheel well, whereas the force of the Toyta was on the side of the truck.

This guy's an idiot...