Quote from: George on December 29, 2023, 23:30:52Forgetting for the moment the cringe worthy headline of a new product not keeping up with a prior generation one - let alone surpassing it by a wide margin, surely a headache for Team Red. [...]

"One can chalk the disparity to funky RAM, [...], which is painfully slow for even DDR4, let alone DDR5. Additionally, the Ryzen 9 8945HS is throttling a little, [...] Once these issues are resolved, we can expect to see it perform on par with its last-gen counterpart and even trade blows with the Intel Core Ultra 9 185H, which also seems to be struggling at the moment."

Sounds like it's just typical testing things that always happens.
Expect next year's refresh from both teams to be on the same footing: minor tweaks of their currently released products.

Forgetting for the moment the cringe worthy headline of a new product not keeping up with a prior generation one - let alone surpassing it by a wide margin, surely a headache for Team Red.

While it would appear that Team Blue has at least finally caught up in the iGPU department I'll await for the assumed forth coming BIOS tweaks to pass judgement on this latest offering.

It might be good that my 2023 G14 won't be OBS all that soon. :)

Quote from: Enma45 on December 29, 2023, 17:14:29I am very clear that I am betting on AMD Zen 4 Phoenix

Phew, we started to worry about it, it was two days without your posts about that 😳

Quote from: Enma45 on December 29, 2023, 17:14:29built at 4nm vs Intel at 7nm, which continues to consume and heat up more than AMD's.

Lol.

Quote from: Enma45 on December 29, 2023, 17:14:29We will have to see what quality of PC and how the comparisons are made because one of the biggest complaints in professional forums is because AMD does not use dual Chanel and Intel does.

Lmao, who tf is complaining about that? More channels equals more system instability. You need ECC memory to counter that and good luck with that in laptops.

Quote from: Enma45 on December 29, 2023, 17:14:29It is seen that Intel's briefcases for OEM manufacturers do not stop circulating, making the laptop configuration worse, when AMD has the best processor of the year 2023

That would be Apple's M3 Max.

I am very clear that I am betting on AMD Zen 4 Phoenix built at 4nm vs Intel at 7nm, which continues to consume and heat up more than AMD's.
We will have to see what quality of PC and how the comparisons are made because one of the biggest complaints in professional forums is because AMD does not use dual Chanel and Intel does.
It is seen that Intel's briefcases for OEM manufacturers do not stop circulating, making the laptop configuration worse, when AMD has the best processor of the year 2023