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Posted by NikoB
 - December 13, 2023, 21:49:07
As I have already written many times, in order for an ordinary person, the owner of a PC/laptop (there is no talk of smartphones due to their limitations) to feel the real, practical benefits of local neural networks in their hardware, the hardware requirements must increase at least 100 times. None of this will happen in the next 30 years. Neither capacious disks in petabytes, nor RAM in tens and hundreds of terabytes. Nor the speed of RAM in terabytes/s.

This, like the previous progress of mankind, requires the slow evolutionary accumulation of a technological base.

Remember how firearms appeared, especially rifled weapons, remember how transistors appeared, etc.

These are all technologies that took hundreds of years of evolution before this.

Ordinary people are deliberately being lied to about "AI" in the very near future for a banal reason - it's easier to make people work for pennies, forgetting about their rights, in fear for their jobs. Under the constant pressure of lies that "we are about to replace you with a machine". This is deliberate indoctrination according to already known patterns that have been successfully tested with the "covid" scam, a global network of powerful beneficiaries behind global corporations and kleptocrats who want to maintain both shadow and direct power. And there really is nothing more complicated here.

For a real breakthrough in real AI and a household breakthrough with complex, local expert systems in your pocket, you still need basic technological advances for at least 50 years, according to the most conservative estimates. And only if the world does not disintegrate into closed concentration camp zones and effective international labor cooperation is not destroyed. Because no country, including the United States, can handle tasks of this level.

In the USA they just wrote about the results of PISA 2022 about how public education has fallen. Where will the advanced human capital come from to do this? You have to look for it all over the world. There are supposedly 8 billion people on the planet, but in reality, the number of actually educated people (corresponding to the understanding of the current state of scientific and technical progress) is continuously falling in all countries. Hundreds of researchers point to this. So there is simply no one to develop real AI - there is not enough human capital on planet Earth...
Posted by Hotz
 - December 13, 2023, 11:20:05
Quote from: Mr Majestyk on December 13, 2023, 01:23:28LOL as though most give a stuff about AI BS.

Absolutely. I think much more people care about a better iGPU than some fuzzy AI gibberish, of which no one really knows what it's good for (all the AI things mentioned for Photoshop and other crap apps can also be done with the GPU).
Posted by Sinocelt
 - December 13, 2023, 11:09:06
Microsoft is working with Intel on Lunar Lake, so Lunar Lake should have at least 45 TOPS, as will AMD's Strix Point (which was delayed, probably to push the original 20 TOPS to 45–50 TOPS, to satisfy Windows 12's expected requirements).
Posted by Mr Majestyk
 - December 13, 2023, 01:23:28
LOL as though most give a stuff about AI BS. If this is all Tom has got to bash Intel, he's a moron and I say this as an AMD user.
Posted by Redaktion
 - December 12, 2023, 19:27:03
The Intel Meteor Lake processors are right around the corner with an improved iGPU, better efficiency, and a dedicated NPU for handling AI workloads on device. However, the Core Ultra processors could lose the AI race to AMD as the Meteor Lake NPU performance reportedly lags behind the Ryzen 8040 Hawk Point APUs.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Meteor-Lake-vs-Ryzen-8040-Hawk-Point-AI-battle-could-be-in-AMD-s-favor-as-Core-Ultra-NPU-tipped-to-only-match-Ryzen-7040-APUs.781868.0.html