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Posted by Jamesjames
 - November 23, 2023, 02:27:41
I think they forgot about Lucid Motors in this. The Lucid Air is actually the fastest charging EV on the market. It can get you 300 miles in 20mins of charger at a 350kW/hr. Definitely more than each car mentioned.
Posted by Brad
 - November 22, 2023, 19:28:36
1. It doesn't matter how fast they "can" charge if the charging network is down or throttled which is very common for non Tesla stations. Tesla is reliable at every Supercharger.
2. Too bad the Hyundai/Kia/Genesis EV line still have level 2 (home charging) charge port overheat issues in the US.
Posted by Brendan
 - November 20, 2023, 17:27:08
Tesla fans really need to calm down before commenting.

While the article doesn't explain the testing methodology, you can do some simple math to realize miles per hour added is not the same as saying the cars sat at the charger for an hour. It's a rate of charging that accounts for both the charging rate and the discharging rate when driving.

Since the winner has about 300 miles of range it's pretty obvious it could not be charged for an hour straight. I guess critical thought is not your thing.

This was not an article about the quality of Tesla or any other charging system so comments about how great the Super Chargers are suggest you have a reading comprehension problem. Non Tesla owners are aware and I can't wait for a magic dock near me to test.

As an owner of a Niro EV with a max charging rate of 80 kW I am well aware of the real world charging issues, especially after a 1,600 mile road trip that I will never do again in this car. Fun experiment and we knew what we were getting into but never again.

It would have been nice to let us know the beginning and ending state of charge for the test and what speed did they drive for the miles per kWh part of the calculation. Our range dropped from 260 miles to 170 to 180 at 80 mph and it charges a lot faster at 20% than 70%. We probably got less than 200 miles per hour in the real world but ne er charged for more than 45 minutes at a time.

Tesla fans should celebrate this information since Tesla clearly understands the advantage of 800 volt systems since they have upgraded the cyber truck from 400 to 800 volts. The cars will probably follow some day. Instead they feel attacked by facts that don't support their cult like mentality. Grow up.

By the way I have Tesla solar panels so I'm not anti Tesla. We just bought the best car for us at the time. First a Leaf that was practically free almost 5 years ago and then the Niro EV last year. Too many Model Ys in the Denver area, I call it the Tesla Taurus. But then again I'm proud of my green bubble on iPhones.
Posted by Gary Peterson
 - November 20, 2023, 14:37:38
My 2021 Model Y charges at up to 238KWH or 1100+ MPH

Your article is FALSE AND MISLEADING
Posted by A-Ron
 - November 20, 2023, 14:03:23
Ranking EVs on fast charge rate is like ranking NFL teams by field goal kicker range. It matters, but it's not the whole story.
Posted by Lightfoot
 - November 20, 2023, 08:10:36
Like Brian said, no one sits at a charger for an hour except non Teslas at 50 and 80kW chargers because it takes that long to charge as many places lack the fastest L3 chargers.

My last 3,000 miles round trip road trip I never had over a 30 minute charge.  My rate for the first 5-10 minutes was at just over 1,000 mph of charge rate.  Adding 87 miles in 5 minutes is very nice.  Even better the roughly 150 in 10 minutes.  I have driven multiple 900-1000 mile days in a Tesla, but I know few people who have driven like that in other EV simply because they do not have the convenient and reliable charging network Tesla does. 

Did anyone notice how even Porsche first released their EVs they had the fastest charging available but then total media silence as the batteries degraded and Porsche slowed the charging?  No?  Weird...
Posted by Brian P
 - November 20, 2023, 05:35:45
I'm not sure who sits at a charger for an hour, but when I road trip I aim for 15-20 minutes while the Tesla is still in it's peak charging rate for most of it. An actually useful comparison would be for them to take these cars on the same road trip at the same time and see who gets there first. My money is on the model 3, at least while the others have to rely on electrify america.
Posted by Not Stan
 - November 20, 2023, 04:31:06
Stan is a little sensitive?   
Posted by Stan Kinaz
 - November 20, 2023, 01:56:14
Yet I don't see Tesla waiting in long lines as those other EVs. There is videos out there for out of spec that show what non Tesla charging looks like it it does not look enjoyable.

So non Teslas EVs think they can do better than Tesla? This report doesn't prove it. When it comes to long distance traveling, Tesla still wins regardless if it charges slower than non Tesla EV. Another point, why so non Teslas EV have app problem and software update problems. It could be because they are not a software company. Or maybe rocket science is truly hard and since space X and Tesla are run. Y the same CEO perhaps Tesla will always have the advantage.

Maybe Porsche and MB should give rocket science a shot. And prove Elon wrong. Boeing and the Europen alliance, along with China and Russia are doing a bad job at proving space wrong. And those companies have better range that space X too.
Posted by Redaktion
 - November 19, 2023, 19:59:49
The fastest charging electric vehicles sold in the US come from Hyundai and KIA according to a new real-world test at L3 chargers. Tesla, which has the most expansive Level 3 250kW charging infrastructure, comes at number 10 in the ranking.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Teslas-are-bad-at-fast-charging-before-the-800V-Cybertruck-release-while-Hyundai-is-quickest-with-868-mi-hr-rate.770648.0.html