Quote from: NikoB on December 21, 2023, 18:41:40American dishwasher

Ahaha, this again? ))

Quote from: NikoB on December 21, 2023, 18:41:40You only inspire contempt among smart people on the forum.

Already told you, don't appeal to audience that's existing only in your head. Of course by "smart" you mean yourself, and, surprise-surprise, you are not, by a mile. I kinda know you just want to turn page to cover your disgrace and leave the thread, every madman on the Internet does this, you are nothing special. You guys somehow always think new page is new life from clean slate. )

It's time for you to go to the kitchen, American dishwasher. You only inspire contempt among smart people on the forum.

Quote from: NikoB on December 21, 2023, 13:59:52It's getting more and more fun for me to read how two stupid trolls bury themselves. And if it weren't for the periodic help of the administration, they would have disappeared from the forum long ago (at least they would have changed their nicknames, disgracing themselves). =)

You can say NikoBipolar realized floor got mopped with him again when he starts putting smiley faces and saying how much fun he had.

It's getting more and more fun for me to read how two stupid trolls bury themselves. And if it weren't for the periodic help of the administration, they would have disappeared from the forum long ago (at least they would have changed their nicknames, disgracing themselves). =)

Leaving this here just so this dummy NikoB doesn't think I was joking about running inferences on Raspberry Pi. )))

tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero2-runs-stable-diffusion-1-5

Quote from: Neenyah on December 20, 2023, 22:44:15Dishwasher is probably something totally else in his native language, we will never know

It's very funny

Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 22:22:08

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 21:40:55Again you, dishwasher, are delusional. You know nothing about serious neural networks.

"Dishwasher"? Lol wtf is this even. )))

He said many times that he uses Google Translate and lately whatever they have to translate based on Google's AI (Bard?). He keeps complaining about how bad they are but as English is fairly unfamiliar to him without those tools... Dishwasher is probably something totally else in his native language, we will never know 😁

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 21:40:55Again you, dishwasher, are delusional. You know nothing about serious neural networks.

"Dishwasher"? Lol wtf is this even. )))

Stop sh*tting your pants, dummy, it's clear you have nothing to do with IT. But you've became smarter today thanks to me, now you know it's TRAINING AIs that requires a lot of hardware, not RUNNING them. See, we are getting there. I'm proud of you.

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 21:40:55This time you will probably disappear for a month?

I am yet to see him disappear once, unlike you. Isn't that your specialty, lmao? Whenever you get asked for proof of your s*** claims (like that mythical unicorn Huawei laptop which was being sold in your country five months before being released in China or anywhere else on the planet) you just poof - disappear. Never again to be seen in that thread and even if you do come back you completely ignore the request for the proof 😂

Quote from: Neenyah on December 14, 2023, 14:27:56

Quote from: NikoB on December 14, 2023, 14:11:52

Quote from: Neenyah on December 13, 2023, 23:27:33Must be nice to live in a country where Chinese OEMs sell their own products many months before they even release them in their own market (China).

I have already proven more than once that you are lying and I can easily prove it again.

Lmao, so do it then. I am lying, Notebookcheck is lying, hell even Huawei is lying and they were secretly selling this laptop in your super-important country FIVE MONTHS before they released the product in China. All links are lies, only your invisible links and sources are THE truth 😂

Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 17:43:40Lol, so you really have no idea. They buy AI hardware to _train_ AIs, dummy. _Training_ takes a lot of resources, and _inferencing_ can be ran even on Raspberry Pi (for some models). You probably don't know what inferencing is too though, lol, I don't care, google it up.

Again you, dishwasher, are delusional. You know nothing about serious neural networks.

This time you will probably disappear for a month? At least I hope...

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 17:15:40Why do companies buy "AI" accelerators if processor speed is already enough for everything?

Lol, so you really have no idea. They buy AI hardware to _train_ AIs, dummy. _Training_ takes a lot of resources, and _inferencing_ can be ran even on Raspberry Pi (for some models). You probably don't know what inferencing is too though, lol, I don't care, google it up.

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 17:15:40but I do need a laptop with the most powerful processor,

Says the guy with cheap a** hardware.

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 17:15:40Stupid troll, right now I'm using software that has always been absent on MacOS and the developer doesn't care about Apple's products, because development on this platform is a priori unprofitable. And this software is extremely dependent on hardware and its performance.

Yeah, right, secret software on your secret S-PVA display.

Quote from: NikoB on December 20, 2023, 17:15:40You are a janitor at some startup, judging by the fact that even when answering your favorite questions about "AI" (not even from me), you quietly disappeared from the forum for almost a week. =)

Adventure into the mind of a local clown. Thanks for worrying about me babe. I've been sick, my world doesn't rotate around you or this forum, you know.

Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 10:27:18

Quote from: NikoB on December 10, 2023, 13:38:18Users would immediately switch to Arm if it were several times faster.

People will switch to ARM when they see laptop can carry them through transatlantic flight while doing their normal workflow and still being compact and silent. Almost no one gives a f*ck about "faster" in 2023. CPU speed is plenty today, and it already was 2 years ago.

Quote from: NikoB on December 10, 2023, 13:38:18At the same time, having 1000 times more high-quality commercial and free code.

Yeah, typical bs from someone who doesn't know macos is UNIX and everything is cross-compilable. IT building janitor still thinks there's a thing like "x86 code" in 2023.

Quote from: NikoB on December 10, 2023, 13:38:18Because even now x86 processors are 1.5-2 times faster than the fastest Apple solutions, as proven by tests.

*Desktop* x86 processors faster than *laptop* Apple solutions.

Again troll A gets in with his stupid attitudes. Why do companies buy "AI" accelerators if processor speed is already enough for everything?

I don't need a standalone laptop, like many millions of people who don't fly anywhere and don't carry laptops on the streets, but I do need a laptop with the most powerful processor, but at the same time quiet, easy to upgrade and as comfortable as possible in other aspects. And in the 2023 market there are simply no such models with an optimal ratio of quality and price. And we don't need a desktop.

Quote from: A on December 20, 2023, 10:27:18Yeah, typical bs from someone who doesn't know macos is UNIX and everything is cross-compilable. IT building janitor still thinks there's a thing like "x86 code" in 2023.

Stupid troll, right now I'm using software that has always been absent on MacOS and the developer doesn't care about Apple's products, because development on this platform is a priori unprofitable. And this software is extremely dependent on hardware and its performance.
Stupid troll, right now I'm using software that has always been absent on MacOS and the developer doesn't care about Apple's products, because development on this platform is a priori unprofitable. And this software is extremely dependent on hardware and its performance.

You are a janitor at some startup, judging by the fact that even when answering your favorite questions about "AI" (not even from me), you quietly disappeared from the forum for almost a week. =)

Quote from: NikoB on December 10, 2023, 13:38:18Users would immediately switch to Arm if it were several times faster.

People will switch to ARM when they see laptop can carry them through transatlantic flight while doing their normal workflow and still being compact and silent. Almost no one gives a f*ck about "faster" in 2023. CPU speed is plenty today, and it already was 2 years ago.

Quote from: NikoB on December 10, 2023, 13:38:18At the same time, having 1000 times more high-quality commercial and free code.

Yeah, typical bs from someone who doesn't know macos is UNIX and everything is cross-compilable. IT building janitor still thinks there's a thing like "x86 code" in 2023.

Quote from: NikoB on December 10, 2023, 13:38:18Because even now x86 processors are 1.5-2 times faster than the fastest Apple solutions, as proven by tests.

*Desktop* x86 processors faster than *laptop* Apple solutions.

Quote from: The Werewolf on November 14, 2023, 20:58:26That's simply not reality for PC makers. In Microsoft decided "ARM-only," people would either refuse to upgrade or switch to Linux or MacOS. This isn't even hypothetical - we saw it with Vista and Win8 and we're seeing it again with Win11.

So they moved on, so they moved on that the share of users of Linux distributions does not exceed 2-3%, approximately the same as 20 years ago. There wasn't really any problem with W8.1 other than not being stupid and changing the shell to something else. From the point of view of compatibility with x86 software, problems began in Vista-W7.

Quote from: The Werewolf on November 14, 2023, 20:58:26And as a developer, I have no real reason to port to ARM, easy as it is, without a customer base to justify it because it's still more cost to me.

This is a problem as old as time. It can only be solved by a real breakthrough in performance (quality) several times greater than on x86, which we do not see. There is no "silver bullet" that would completely destroy the x86 market.

Users would immediately switch to Arm if it were several times faster. And the operating system is friendly and comfortable for the average person. But it is unpleasant and uncomfortable even for IT professionals on the x86 platform, so what can we say about ordinary users? Constantly lagging behind in hardware support and real performance.

Quote from: The Werewolf on November 14, 2023, 20:58:26pple doesn't have this problem because they can basically mandate that devs support ARM or their software gets removed or blocked. Microsoft cannot do that.

This is one big problem for Apple. Developers on its platform will only do something if they get a greater benefit than if they exist in the x86 ecosystem (where, for obvious reasons, there is much more competition). As soon as Apple destroys this difference, developers will immediately leave the Apple platform and it will be left with a bare bottom. Nothing personal - this is business...

Quote from: The Werewolf on November 14, 2023, 20:58:26In the end, the hardware doesn't matter - it's software and workflow.

Yes, it does. After all, the x86 share is more than 80% of the market and for good reason. Because even now x86 processors are 1.5-2 times faster than the fastest Apple solutions, as proven by tests. At the same time, having 1000 times more high-quality commercial and free code.

Looking at NBC's Robo & Kala review shows the real advantage of ARM over x86. The only thing that Windows on ARM need to grow bigger is more developers' interest. Qualcomm can throw in Apple Silicon-beating SoCs, but it won't make much difference if desktop software developers still go to macOS more than Windows.