Quote from: Hunter2020 on November 13, 2023, 22:56:21Stay dead.  You just wait until China ramps up chip production.  Then Huawei will have enough chips for ARM laptops running... Harmony OS!

You may be right, but I think China goes further, its total commitment is to create chips with the RISC-V architecture, totally free code.
The US has forced China to see RISC-V as its future golden goose. With it he hopes to stand up to the West in his race for technological independence. If China achieves it, the US will be trembling

Quote from: Salvador on November 14, 2023, 12:23:30ARM processors

Reality is they only had one semi-viable CPU so far, 8cxg3... And can't call that one good or appealing too. So number of devices really doesn't matter.

If the only windows on ARM laptop you can find is the X13s, obviously you weren't looking very hard. Through 2022 and 2023 there were a total of 18 laptops running ARM processors released. So like I said, if only the X13s was the only one you could find, you obviously didn't look very haard. 

In all fairness, this is the same case as the Wear OS. There was no adequate hardware to support it, until the Snapdragon Wear 4100 in late 2020. Then, Google and the Wear OS team took it seriously, and worked on the Wear OS 3, which is way better competitor than before to the rest of the OSes out there.

Stay dead.  You just wait until China ramps up chip production.  Then Huawei will have enough chips for ARM laptops running... Harmony OS!

Nah, it's just fine. Runs things, bugs a bit. They are waiting for normal ARM hardware, there's like 1 underpowered CPU in the market for it right now and you can run it in VMs on M SoC MacBooks..

Strange, because maintaining an ARM build of apps is actually (for the most part) quite simple...

Doubt Windows on ARM will die anytime soon, specially given upcoming ARM chips tones of manufacturers looking to overtake M-Series.

Lol, why would any manufacturer or any software developer be interested on Windows on ARM when there are no capable ARM chips to run Windows on??? If and when there are capable chips the whole Windows on ARM scene will change drastically. How is this not super obvious?

Current Snapdragon chips for laptops are very weak and completely useless. When the new Elite CPUs come out we'll have a whole new Windows on ARM landscape, only because these chips will be powerful enoughn to run Windows properly AND to have a great battery life.

QuoteApparently, laptop makers do not see much point in using ARM chips; worse still, software developers do not appear to be very interested in creating/maintaining dedicated ARM versions of their products, either.

Intel certainly has a very agressive grip on PC manufacturers it can to ensure x86 propers for many years to come.

AMD is no different but is simply happy to get used in prebuilt systems now that Intel is waging a war against ARM rather than against them.