QuoteIt's not USB4 controller, it's power controller. Eventually port will malfunction, as it's a hardware design fault.

Do you mean that all T14s Gen 4 AMD have the same issue?

Quote from: WK on August 20, 2024, 15:41:23normal temperature as USB4 controller may reach up to 85°C

It's not USB4 controller, it's power controller. Eventually port will malfunction, as it's a hardware design fault.
I'd return it.

A friendly warning for those who plan to buy this model (T14s Gen 4 AMD, type 21F8, 21F9).

When connected to a docking station, the top-left corner of the keyboard reaches very unpleasant temperature of 40°C. I've tested it with two docks from Lenovo (40AF and 40AN) and another brand (i-tec). According to Lenovo's support, this is normal temperature as USB4 controller may reach up to 85°C. The same issue is reported by T14s Gen 3 users.

If you're not going to use USB4, this notebook is worth recommending.

Yes, the Thinkpad series has finally turned into a disgraceful piece of crap, and not a professional business laptop.

It's crazy just imaging a thinkpad T with soldered RAM. This Is not a business notebook, It also miss a cabled LAN connector (usually customers don't let external's and not properly secured laptop to connet wireless) Also no more SD Reader. A sissy notebook not for professionals

Soldered RAM is a NO option for a real business laptop. No way.

It first has to be available to us, which it isn't

I'd be very interested to see a comparison with the new X1 Carbon G12.  I know your reviews are very thorough so aren't as fast as other less comprehensive reviews.  When do you expect to have a full review?

I followed the link back to the T14s G3 6850U review and it too is pulling 41 W while running Furmark + Prime95 for Notebookcheck's 'stress test.' So both the G4 and G3 are pulling the same power under stress. Unsure why their 2 minimum runtimes differ by 40+ minutes.

Quote from: jpv on November 10, 2023, 19:32:44Is this saying that the G44 has worse working battery life than the G3?

Any opinions on this?

You bring up a good point. Unsure how going from 60% brightness of the screen for wi-fi testing to 'full load at maximum brightness' run times can drop by a factor of 7x from same 57 Whr battery. The screen is a low power (2 W-ish) and processor is running at sustained 'max' of 24 W for a total of 26 W. 57 Whr/ 26 W should give a run time >120 min even with other system things like wi-fi running. But note this only applies to 'max' testing as deemed by what NBC says is max. Is it running Prime95 + FireStrike at the same time with something pinging the SSD for max reads/writes simultaneously? Whatever it is, somehow the 6850U seems to have a lower 'max' power consumption by a lot for very similar hardware.

Is this saying that the G44 has worse working battery life than the G3?

Any opinions on this?

Quote from: ArsLoginName on November 03, 2023, 12:18:38

Quote from: Iiari on November 02, 2023, 17:43:08It does make one think, what's the largest battery capacity paired with a 7840U chip right now?  HP's 76 whr with the Elitebook 845 G10? Anything bigger? 

I only see a 37 or a 51 Whr battery for the EliteBook 845 G10 in the US. Where did you find a 76 Whr battery?

My apologies, I had it wrong on first glance.  It was the Elitebook 865 :(. 

Quote from: Iiari on November 02, 2023, 17:43:08It does make one think, what's the largest battery capacity paired with a 7840U chip right now?  HP's 76 whr with the Elitebook 845 G10? Anything bigger? 

I only see a 37 or a 51 Whr battery for the EliteBook 845 G10 in the US. Where did you find a 76 Whr battery?

Wow, finally a decent AMD model from Lenovo! A reasonable set of ports, USB4...

Soldered RAM sucks because Lenovo charges too much for it. Wait for a sale I guess.

The larger model with 2x NVMe sockets should be fantastic too.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on November 02, 2023, 07:37:517840U at 99.9Wh can reach some 23h WLAN battery life. We are reaching true full day use. Not bad!

It does make one think, what's the largest battery capacity paired with a 7840U chip right now?  HP's 76 whr with the Elitebook 845 G10? Anything bigger?