Quote from: NikoB on September 08, 2023, 23:36:20Most professional photographic equipment shoots in AdobeRGB - it would be strange for someone to process photos in DCI-P3 or sRGB (this is done only for posting content on websites).

In any case, the screen is not even close to being "outstanding". An ordinary screen for 2023, below average in terms of diagonal and color rendition and contrast and the actual bit depth of the matrix. And even more so with permission - because for really clear text in browsers based on the chromium engine, a minimum of 220-230 ppi is needed.

Even Dell, to whose comment I once provided a link, answered the question why a 6k monitor - professionals prefer ppi above 230. And that says it all. And Acer has a cheap amateur screen that is below average.

Oh give me a break, from comments about pro monitors on a gaming laptop and the communist diatribe.

You're comparing a monitor for a gaming laptop that isn't designed for what you're complaining about.  If you want something that, there are tons of creator laptops out there that have better screens that handle the high quality color better, albeit at lower refresh rates and higher response times. They're designed for gaming with the low response time and high refresh rate.

It's a decent display for what it is, and if it's the same one on the Predator Helios, it's pretty good overall.  Light bleed has been a problem on the Acers for awhile now, though.

Quote from: julia_top on September 09, 2023, 12:45:44Let's not forget that Zen 4 is compatible with HDMI 2.1 and UBS 40 and DDR 5

Incorrect definition - Zen4 Phoenix is not compatible, but has built-in HDMI 2.1 48Gbps and 2 x USB40 ports 40Gbps, plus 2 x USB 10Gbps ports (variable setup for -A/-C) + 4 USB 2.0 ports.

Again, capitalist freaks, for the sake of artificial division of lines and maximizing profits, artificially worsen the characteristics of laptops with Zen4 Phoenix, often bringing out by downgrading the protocol version not HDMI 2.1, but the shameful antique 2.0b and instead of 2 x USB40 located strictly symmetrically on the left and right, as was the case originally conceived in the built-in TB4/USB40 controllers by Intel/AMD developers, they output at best 1 port on one side or, in rare cases, 2 ports on one side, and more often they output nothing at all except the obsolete usb-c without support for the USB40 protocol. Humanity, after the rapid development and progress of the end of the 20th century and the first 10 years of the 21st century, is rapidly plunging into a new neo-medieval age, which is skillfully created by moral monsters in large corporations and on the Internet. Unfortunately, through their criminal efforts, the civilian layer of the population is being emasculated and thinning out, and the majority of the population is rapidly becoming dumber. We are heading towards complete idiocracy and degradation of civilization, the majority of the population. Since the 2010s, civilization has begun to rapidly reverse in terms of human progress in a positive way.

Quote from: LL on September 09, 2023, 00:00:51Incorrect. It is an option, in camera for both sRGB and Adobe RGB.

Like i said it only matters for printing and usually high quality printings in nice magazines or publicity.
Monitors people use are split is  this: worse than sRGB, sRGB(rec709 for video) while DCI-P3(rec.2020) are still rare. So anything taken in Adobe RGB need to be converted to sRGB to not look like crap in web or in your computer.
This screen by the specs are much better than most. But your opinion is not surprising you have a very  messianic stance.

I have owned a 94%+ AdobeRGB monitor for over 15 years (which also only has a 7ms G2G) and I don't understand why in 2023 I should buy something worse, like the majority of the world's population.

I also own a top-end camera with AdobeRGB and I don't even think about shooting in poor sRGB, even if there is such a choice in the menu, like 100% of professionals.

The world should strive for the better, not for the worse, and filthy capitalists, for the sake of maximizing profits, have been driving humanity into the dark ages for many years, bringing the situation to the point of absurdity with a shameful 45-46% NTSC, specifically for display panels. And social totalitarians like the moral monster Zuckerberg and others like him help in this in every possible way.

Only a narrow layer of decent civil activists is trying to fight all this, the herd is already sadly wandering to the next slaughterhouse and contributing to the development of monsters...

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He must have put an AMD ZEN 4 7040 Phoenix and he would have saved himself a lot of trouble. Let's not forget that Zen 4 is compatible with HDMI 2.1 and UBS 40 and DDR 5

Quote from: NikoB on September 08, 2023, 23:36:20And Acer has a cheap amateur screen that is below average.

Ah yes, let's compare a professional-grade monitor with specific purpose like this Eizo - https://www.eizoglobal.com/products/coloredge/cg319x/ - with a general-purpose laptop and call that laptop amateur and 💩 because it's not as good. Let's disregard the fact that the whole laptop is almost 3.5x cheaper than that monitor 😆

What's next to hear with your wild logic? That every single car is an amateurish piece of 💩 because prototypes and F1 cars are simply far better?

QuoteMost professional photographic equipment shoots in AdobeRGB

Incorrect. It is an option, in camera for both sRGB and Adobe RGB.

Like i said it only matters for printing and usually high quality printings in nice magazines or publicity.
Monitors people use are split is  this: worse than sRGB, sRGB(rec709 for video) while DCI-P3(rec.2020) are still rare. So anything taken in Adobe RGB need to be converted to sRGB to not look like crap in web or in your computer.

This screen by the specs are much better than most. But your opinion is not surprising you have a very  messianic stance.

Most professional photographic equipment shoots in AdobeRGB - it would be strange for someone to process photos in DCI-P3 or sRGB (this is done only for posting content on websites).

In any case, the screen is not even close to being "outstanding". An ordinary screen for 2023, below average in terms of diagonal and color rendition and contrast and the actual bit depth of the matrix. And even more so with permission - because for really clear text in browsers based on the chromium engine, a minimum of 220-230 ppi is needed.

Even Dell, to whose comment I once provided a link, answered the question why a 6k monitor - professionals prefer ppi above 230. And that says it all. And Acer has a cheap amateur screen that is below average.

DCI-P3 is the color for cinema and most video is still in sRGB/Rec709.



Adobe sRGB is connect to CMYK for printing jobs so a small part of artists work.

And for video processing, the processor is shamefully weak in 2023. For this price, there should be a 2 times faster 7845HX.

Even the cheap 7940HS is 20-30% faster, while also having 2 USB40 ports and an advanced video built-in.

We have been selling Asus TUF in our stores for a long time with a 7940HS+4070 and a 2.5k screen, much cheaper than this defective one from Acer. In addition, TUF has a full-fledged numpad, albeit with narrower buttons (Legion has approximately the same narrowed buttons).

Acer can no longer offer the market anything from advanced solutions, therefore it has a small market share and is losing out to Asus more and more quickly. With the tenacity of sheep, they step on the same rake from year to year...

Quote from: LL on September 08, 2023, 16:24:05Congrats to Acer for a great screen. That makes this one not only good for gamers but also for artists and cinema/TV series viewers.

You must be kidding - the screen has a weak contrast of 1000:1 compared to the 1200:1+ of a number of competitors and at the same time only 86% AdobeRGB, which still excludes professional color work. Only amateur. DCI-P3 is not intended for "artists", it is a purely video color standard. Artists with photographic works need full coverage of AdobeRGB and native 30-bit for a long time.

Congrats to Acer for a great screen. That makes this one not only good for gamers but also for artists and cinema/TV series viewers.

The overall problem of this laptop is not related to it but to the comparatively mediocre RTX4070 that is practically indistinguishable from RTX4060. Nvidia needs to release a laptop improved 4070 with 12GB VRAM.

As it is the price is to costly.

Again - look at the main purpose of this Acer product - even in fhd mode it is no longer capable of delivering 60fps with a poor 4070 in 2023 releases, but what will happen next? For such a monstrous price of a laptop, the 4070 no longer has any prospects for future games, even in cloudy fhd, not to mention the native resolution of 2.5k.

It's pointless to talk about the performance of this $1800+ craft. A poor outdated processor, a slow memory controller with an efficiency of no more than 70% of the theoretical limit for ddr5 4800. With poor controller latency. Despite the fact that for a long time since May 2023, laptops from other companies with the 7845HX, which is literally 2 times faster and with a much larger 2.5k screen, have been sold in stores for less money.

As usual, stupid Acer marketers ruined the numpad with the right arrow in place of insert - thereby doing hara-kiri for the entire series, in order to buy it as a universal work laptop. And having lost a million audience of potential buyers, at once, unlike the Legion series, which is in high demand as universal work and entertainment laptops.

Well, the cooling system isn't even worth mentioning.

Why and to whom this series is intended - the question remains open...albeit generally rhetorical. As a perspective gaming device for 1.5-2 years it is already obsolete and as universal working device it is not comfortable..