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Posted by Sosgi
 - August 05, 2023, 12:21:17
Nice
Posted by Logoffon
 - August 04, 2023, 12:03:11
Quote from: Thor_pc on August 03, 2023, 19:23:06I am not a gamer I do not need any dGPU with the iGPU I have more than enough in a 13"-14"-15" ultrabook and if possible with Wiffi 7 + USB 4.0 + HDMI 2.1 because these laptops are not available, which are what the public demands .
It is so difficult to make an ultrabook with these characteristics, I see the acer swift edge 16 (sfe16-43) with Wiffi 7 and it seems to me something great, I hope they can do it, but in 13", 14", 15" it would be perfect and a best seller without dGpu with the iGPU RDNA 3 more than enough.

hi julia/david solero, nice to see that your SFE16-43 fetish is still going strong 🤣🤣
Posted by Shizu
 - August 04, 2023, 02:46:15
Yeah no. The closest thing you may get is the Yoga Pro 7 14APH8, but that thing ain't get anywhere near 900usd soon (the 14APR8 reviewed here already cost way more than 1000usd, and that come with Zen3+). The fact that Asus and Lenovo are the only global brand serious about providing Ryzen options ain't helping either.
Posted by Poster
 - August 04, 2023, 01:25:51
I am writing this as a plea to manufactures and AMD to please release a laptop with these features which are not hard to implement.
* 7840U/HS or better
* if soldered ram 32GB+ 6400Mhz or better LPDR5X
* Weighs  <3 lbs
* 13.5-14.5 inch 120Hz+, no flickering. 8ms or less, 100%SRGB touch ips or oled (w/ pen [Wacom] support)
* 12hr+ realistic use battery
* 2 USB 4; 2 USB 3Type A, at least SD 3.0 card reader; HDMI 2.1;
* With these features should NOT be more than $900

These are basic features here. Is it too much to ask for?
Posted by Mark0
 - August 03, 2023, 22:11:07
This is rather exciting news! Always welcome decent 14" gaming options!

So it 'ticks' a few of my wants: 2880 resolution, OLED, 120hz, RTX4060 while somehow shoehorning in a attractive price. (my guess is they went cheap on RAM and SSD)

Razer and MSI take notice!
Posted by Disappointed
 - August 03, 2023, 21:20:12
2023 Asus G14 7940HS, 48GB, 8TB M.2, RTX 4090 (125W) owner here.

Things I want to see in an updated model:
- 140W USB C charging via all other USB C ports
- 2x USB C ports in the back (1x 240W power, 1x 140W power+DP+audio etc)
- 1x USB C port on the left
- RTX 4090 equivalent with 16GB+ VRAM
- White colour option
- slimmer bezels
- Thermal Grizzly liquid metal on both CPU, GPU
- Vapour chamber
- 600cd/m2 matte display
- Max. 1.7kg like Asus G14
- USB C charger with removable cable like MacBook chargers
Posted by Thor_pc
 - August 03, 2023, 19:23:06
I am not a gamer I do not need any dGPU with the iGPU I have more than enough in a 13"-14"-15" ultrabook and if possible with Wiffi 7 + USB 4.0 + HDMI 2.1 because these laptops are not available, which are what the public demands .
It is so difficult to make an ultrabook with these characteristics, I see the acer swift edge 16 (sfe16-43) with Wiffi 7 and it seems to me something great, I hope they can do it, but in 13", 14", 15" it would be perfect and a best seller without dGpu with the iGPU RDNA 3 more than enough.
Posted by dalvart
 - August 03, 2023, 19:22:44
QuoteRAM is generally upgradeable on Intel variants just fine but they use DDR5 4800 instead of LPDDR5/LPDDR5X 6400. If they used DDR5 4800 for AMD then performance would be solidly weaker than Intel (Ryzens are hungry for fastest RAM possible), thermals would be slightly higher and battery life would be about the same as with Intel. Then people wouldn't be happy again so whatever they (Lenovo) do it's not good, someone will always be unhappy.

Now laptops come with ddr5-5600 kits with AMD processors. And the battery life is hardly affected. The problem with soldered RAM in laptops is its life cycle and future proofing. If you buy this laptop for professional workloads like video editing or CAD projects, they will quickly become outdated as that software consumes a lot of RAM today and in the future.

QuoteWith LPDDR5 6400 you also get about 15% better performance over DDR5 4800 just on the 680M/780M iGPU alone - youtu.be/F7VV_PxuLws - so if you want to disable this RTX 4060 here and use just integrated graphics you can enjoy in more graphics power and with longer battery life just because of soldered faster RAM

Also consider the iGPU use some memory as a simulated dedicated graphics card. For example, the iGPU 780M uses 3GB of memory to work with video rendering and encoding, especially when it comes to gaming. So you actually have almost 12 gigs of RAM to work with, if this laptop, for example, comes with 16 GB of soldered RAM.
Posted by Neenyah
 - August 03, 2023, 18:29:27
Quote from: dalvart on August 03, 2023, 16:36:27Soldered RAM. What a mess.

LPDDR comes only in BGA packages rather than DIMMs. LPDDR has never had DIMMs in all of its history so far including LPDDR5/LPDDR5X and here we have LPDDR5X-6400.

RAM is generally upgradeable on Intel variants just fine but they use DDR5 4800 instead of LPDDR5/LPDDR5X 6400. If they used DDR5 4800 for AMD then performance would be solidly weaker than Intel (Ryzens are hungry for fastest RAM possible), thermals would be slightly higher and battery life would be about the same as with Intel. Then people wouldn't be happy again so whatever they (Lenovo) do it's not good, someone will always be unhappy.

With LPDDR5 6400 you also get about 15% better performance over DDR5 4800 just on the 680M/780M iGPU alone - youtu.be/F7VV_PxuLws - so if you want to disable this RTX 4060 here and use just integrated graphics you can enjoy in more graphics power and with longer battery life just because of soldered faster RAM.
Posted by Wir
 - August 03, 2023, 18:10:58
It would be nice to just have one (1) laptop in this class to have an ethernet jack.
Posted by dalvart
 - August 03, 2023, 16:36:27
Soldered RAM. What a mess.
Posted by Redaktion
 - August 03, 2023, 15:00:56
The Legion Slim 5 has received a 14-inch refresh. Offered with the AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS, the Legion Slim 5 14 also has an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 (105 W TGP) and a large battery that supports 140 W charging. Lenovo installs a 120 Hz OLED display too, among other features.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Slim-5-New-14-inch-gaming-laptop-debuts-with-AMD-Ryzen-9-7940HS-140-W-charging-and-120-Hz-OLED-display.738524.0.html