Toyota should partner with QS

Personally have been waiting for Toyota and Honda to get their s*** together before I even bother with EVs.

Yes, they are late to the EV party. Yes they have stumbled. But I trust them beyond any other manufacturer for making reliability a priority. I do *not* want sexy. I want rock-solid, no bullshit reliability. And I am very patient. I'll buy used ICE or PHEV from those two until the EV market has matured a bit.

Quote from: Hunter2020 on July 05, 2023, 01:59:02First make your cars look good first. Our family been driving Toyota's forever.  BUT the latest cars from them look like crap.  Second, Japan companies are known to bluff.  If they was so smart, why they bet all on hydrogen and let China take the lead in EVs?  Third, the article smacks of something like how Sony smartphone will trounce and destroy Apple and Huawei phones!  Puleez, even the mighty Apple cannot take the crown away from high-end Huawei phones.  What makes Toyota so confident can pull ahead of Tesla and BYD in EVs?

Yeah, hard not to be cynical about this. Still I won't be buying an EV until solid state batteries are the norm and do not command a huge premium no doubt. Having to wait another 4-5 years is still infuriating assuming Toyota can deliver. I'll be buying a hybrid for my next car, as where I live our infraastucture is a joke and EV makes little sense, I would need a second car as well.

First make your cars look good first. Our family been driving Toyota's forever.  BUT the latest cars from them look like crap.  Second, Japan companies are known to bluff.  If they was so smart, why they bet all on hydrogen and let China take the lead in EVs?  Third, the article smacks of something like how Sony smartphone will trounce and destroy Apple and Huawei phones!  Puleez, even the mighty Apple cannot take the crown away from high-end Huawei phones.  What makes Toyota so confident can pull ahead of Tesla and BYD in EVs?