Quote from: Oblivion on June 13, 2023, 06:17:52Asus is Scamming people with this, overrated price. They're charging double the price or value of other laptops unknown brands with even higher expects like WUQHD 165hz. DDR5 , PCI express 4, and with much better finishing and design, with aluminium lid...that's truly paying for just the brand name nothing else, a laptop with this specs is around maximum $900USD in same Asia where Asus assemble their scams... Lenovo even worse let's not talk about its brand price tag...laptop all made in plastic, same thing Acer, even so Acer is cheaper from all the known brands. Check in AliExpress or JD for such like spec laptops
You can't be sure of solutions from lesser-known manufacturers unless you conduct a thorough audit of the quality of their solutions at all levels, not just externally.
Are you sure that soldering, the quality of power elements, circuitry, design, specifications are definitely better balanced than here?
Yes, brands charge a lot for the name (reputation).
But for example, you may decide to buy an A-Data SSD and find that at a lower price, every 20th buyer has a problem with the drive, while Samsung only has every 150-200th. Such is the statistics of warranty cases, for example in our local retail chains. What do you choose in this lottery? At the same time, a Samsung drive costs about 1.5 times more, not 8-10 times at all.
Or take the popular MX500 Hynix (Crucial) series - it has an average WAF of 3-4, Samsung has 1-1.5, As a result, for 1TB of recorded, the average number of cycles used is about 3 for the MX500, and for Samsung 1-1.5 and both limit at 1500 cycles for 3D TLC. Both come in a metal case and 1Gb dram buffer. Moreover, the MX500 is even declared in the PLP datasheet. As a result, the 860 evo resource is almost 3 times more, but it costs only 1.5 times more (in the USA it can even be cheaper), and not 2-3 at all.
The situation is approximately the same with laptops (and any other types of goods) - until you fully understand the issue at an expert level, you cannot say that a cheaper product is no worse. It's just demagoguery for the benefit of the poor.
Asus is famous for its less reliable component base and architecture (circuitry) in comparison, for example, with Lenovo, but Lenovo, in turn, for a number of reasons, loses internally in terms of circuitry and the quality of Dell components. Everything also depends on the series and the nuances in each relative to analogues from other manufacturers. You need to carefully study the nuances, i.e. be an expert.
Usually this is an attempt to justify the lack of money and in very rare cases, a real situation where a cheaper product is not inferior in quality or even better than a more expensive one. And most often, this happens in the market when, at the expense of profits, a new company tries to capture market share, in moments of such desperate attempts. When the beneficiaries of the company deliberately sell goods at close to cost or even below it. But usually they are cunning even in this case (this practice is also possible for brands) - at the time of the release of a new product, they release high-quality batches that go to reviews and tests, where they receive laudatory reviews. And at retail, goods with sharply worse components are massively sold. Or wholesale lots, in a certain proportion, are diluted with quality lots, for example 2 to 10 or otherwise, in order to keep break-even or even profitable production. In this case, some of the buyers still receive a quality product, purely by accident or through pull, and try to object to the majority on the forums that received a low-quality product. Or simply the majority does not understand the quality of the product thoroughly, but some part is disassembled and such lucky ones (or hired bots) return it. I don't know the statistics on the quality of components in batches, you cannot reliably say that all batches are of high quality from such a new upstart manufacturer. Although large manufacturers can also deceive you in the same way, examples of which I can easily give.
Finding a quality product outside of brands, such a new upstart company, is not easy, again without understanding the nuances of quality.