Quote from: Mr Majestyk on April 28, 2023, 05:20:08Yeah sure, I'll bet you didn't know all Raptor Lake processors below the 13600K ie 13600 and lower are all Alder Lake cpus with minor clocks boosts. I don't recall seeing that highlighted in the marketing brochures.

Which is why I have you to enlighten me about it 🙇�♂️ Actually all of us because that's a top secret that nobody knows about but you.

Quote from: Barron on April 29, 2023, 00:59:06Lol what? If you know anything about tech companies, they all rebrand previous gens for new. In the case of intel, anything under 13705H is essentially alder lake anyway.

As I said, Intel is far from ideal, but their products are available when they say they will be available instead of MISLEADING and unicorn-marketing that AMD continuously does with their invisible "products". Actually just refer to the quoted comments right below, perfectly summed up s*it in just a couple of sentences. And oh yeah, also Intel's nomenclature is pretty damn straight forward 👉 intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html 👈 where bigger number means better product while AMD just has cats randomly walk around keyboards to decide those wild CPU names and even then - bigger doesn't mean better because that's AMD after all.

Quote from: Sinocelt on April 29, 2023, 03:01:17

Quote from: Poster on April 28, 2023, 22:07:27Expect very few models of laptops to carry the 7040U series this years.

What?? But AMD promised hundreds of 7040U notebook by the end of the year. (AMD also promised that the first of these notebooks would come out in March, which is very, very impressive: the very first invisible notebook!)

Quote from: Neenyah on April 27, 2023, 17:35:20And this is why Intel > AMD trolls. Intel is not ideal but they are at least not actively trying to mislead their customers at every single existing possibility like AMD does.

And their products are actually, you know, available to buy right this very moment. Ryzens from the meme company will MAYBE be available in 15 months, lol.

Lol what? If you know anything about tech companies, they all rebrand previous gens for new. In the case of intel, anything under 13705H is essentially alder lake anyway.

The business will go to any fraud and crime if the benefit is obvious. All this was described by the classics a long time ago.

Today it became known that Microsoft, despite the declarations (mainly for the stupid Western public) that they had left Russia, offered to renew the licenses of more than 1000 companies in Russia. And they continue to maintain licenses and deliver OS and software updates to the millions who support the attack on Ukraine. Apple formally left Russia, but pays fines and does not turn off smartphones that are supplied in Russia according to gray schemes. Google does the same. They don't care about anything as long as it's beneficial to them. And bloody money does not smell and they will be accepted for payment just as easily with the connivance of Western societies, like 3,000 other Western companies that said they had left Russia, but really didn't think to do it, just changing the signboard for cover and complicating the supply chain . At the same time, the Western authorities and special services pretend that they do not notice all this. These are not my assumptions - these are the words of Swiss researchers. And this is what is really happening.

Quote from: Neenyah on April 27, 2023, 17:35:20And this is why Intel > AMD trolls. Intel is not ideal but they are at least not actively trying to mislead their customers at every single existing possibility like AMD does.

And their products are actually, you know, available to buy right this very moment. Ryzens from the meme company will MAYBE be available in 15 months, lol.

Yeah sure, I'll bet you didn't know all Raptor Lake processors below the 13600K ie 13600 and lower are all Alder Lake cpus with minor clocks boosts. I don't recall seeing that highlighted in the marketing brochures.

Yes, Thinkbook 16p 2023 with Intel is already being sold everywhere, while the AMD series has not even been announced by Lenovo. As an example. And so in all series, including Legion. They simply have nothing to declare in psref - no mass batches of Zen4 processors, no laptops ..

The most striking thing is that Lenovo is formally the number 1 manufacturer on the planet of laptops - but for some reason, its new series always come out later than Asus / Msi, etc. Although, in theory, it should have the highest priority for access to wholesale lots from AMD ... Approximately like Apple has on TSMC.

Today, by the way, they told (hinted in general in the press) how much it costs (cost) in reality A17 SoС and M3 for laptops... ;)

And this is why Intel > AMD trolls. Intel is not ideal but they are at least not actively trying to mislead their customers at every single existing possibility like AMD does.

And their products are actually, you know, available to buy right this very moment. Ryzens from the meme company will MAYBE be available in 15 months, lol.

Phoenix was officially launched in January. We're nearing May, and you still can't buy a notebook with Phoenix inside. That doesn't look good.

+1 Better to wait AMD ZEN 4 7040 Phoenix with RDNA 3 + artificial intelligence for the future Window 12, office and the new Direct XII APIs focused on artificial intelligence.
The new laptops will have an orange label and not the red one that is the chip from last year.