Again, you don't understand the key issue - AMD doesn't have built-in USB40 ports in SoCs until the Zen4 Phoenix version. And Intel TB4 has ports built into the U / P series for a long time. Naturally, manufacturers are too lazy to install a separate expensive chip for USB40 in laptops with AMD, when in Intel they only need a cheap interfacing retimer and nothing else - all the key logic is already in the SoC. The situation is approximately the same with WLAN chips. Intel has long had a proprietary CNVi 2.0+ interface with direct access to on-chip wlan logic - AX211-level cards have only transmitters and interface logic. They are cheaper. At AMD, you need to install a full-fledged Intel AX210 card (with full logic in the chip on the card) or another manufacturer.

Again, the question here is the hidden motives of the manufacturers and who and how much "brings" them. The decisive factor is how much an AMD SoC without all this logic is cheaper than an Intel SoC in which this logic is built-in. If they are equal in price, why should the manufacturer contact AMD if the final laptop is more expensive, and due to AMD's small market share in the x86 market (which also began to decline back from 2022), large batches of SoCs from AMD (which also recognized in January 2023, which deliberately holds back the supply of the most scarce series, for the sake of overpricing and selling off stocks of obsolete series) a priori cannot be physically obtained, at a price that suits them.

As a result, we have what we have - there are a lot of models with Intel on the market in a ratio of 5 to 10 to 1, if we compare SoCs announced at the same time, i.e. one year, i.e. manufacturers have nothing to offer buyers from modern AMD series - they simply do not exist in sufficient wholesale quantities on the market at a quantity that suits them (in terms of profit). Amen!

Quote from: NikoB on April 18, 2023, 13:06:20

Quote from: NoopNo on April 18, 2023, 04:31:30No USB4/40Gbs support so no eGPU usage there and that's a big No SALE!

You are apparently not aware of the basis of the sales model for such series - they are sold in large quantities, for secret kickbacks to purchasing managers, to medium and large companies. Lenovo is completely indifferent to the interests of individuals in such series.

No need for the 680M iGPU there really for Business usage but Intel's TB4 is more ubiquitous across all of it's mobile products whereas AMD's segmenting around I/O(USB4/40GBs) connectivity there on laptops as if that sort of 40Gbs connectivity(TB3 actually adopted into the USB-IF's USB4 standard) is new and leading edge. It's a Rembrandt-R(Rebrand of the Ryzen 6000 mobile series). And as far as Laptop OEMs go the 680M iGPU based APUs have mostly been paired with discrete GPUs anyways as a forced up-sale there so why the need for the 680M iGPU there anyways if that laptop's going to be forced paired with a discrete GPU. The Laptop OEMs' bean counters just hate the Idea of any AMD Ryzen laptop with powerful integrated graphics that can be paired with the end users eGPU of choice there via USB4/TB3 and the laptop OEM's losing out on overcharging for discrete mobile GPUs.

Quote from: NoopNo on April 18, 2023, 04:31:30No USB4/40Gbs support so no eGPU usage there and that's a big No SALE!

You are apparently not aware of the basis of the sales model for such series - they are sold in large quantities, for secret kickbacks to purchasing managers, to medium and large companies. Lenovo is completely indifferent to the interests of individuals in such series.

No USB4/40Gbs support so no eGPU usage there and that's a big No SALE!

If you are just doing Sketchup and without realistic renders it is enough, or just working with CAD in 2D.