@Anonymousgg: You got a point there, I must admit. I think that Brave Browser is somewhere in the middle - it allows you to reward your favorite websites while blocking ads at the same time. Obviously, you could also choose to just disable all content/tracking blockers that come with it. 

I go for 480p, sometimes I splurge and do 720p.

BTW, should you be recommending adblockers to your readers? :D

Sure, Pedro, but what will you do for videos that jump from 1080p to 4K? :)

They can keep it ... I watch in 2k

Well, he is free to hate freeloaders. I am not saying he's right, I am a freeloader myself as well when it comes to YouTube. However, I pay a monthly subscription for Google Drive... ;)

QuoteI definitely hope they implement this, 1080p is more than enough for free loaders. Want more, poney up the cash, or find another service. Whatever you choose, is fine for me.

If people are contributing with 4K videos how are they freeloaders? And why the hate for freeloaders?

I definitely hope they implement this, 1080p is more than enough for free loaders. Want more, poney up the cash, or find another service. Whatever you choose, is fine for me.

Quote from: cfb on October 03, 2022, 14:58:50Some interesting misconceptions.

No, 1080 isn't "fine for most people". I have a 65" and 85" tv. 1080 with youtube compression looks like hot garbage, especially if there's fast motion like sports or action content.

You don't get a "better quality audio stream" with 4K vs 1080. Look at stats for nerds. Same exact codec, same exact audio bitrate, no matter what the video resolution is. Yeah, I intuitively thought a lower res video would have bad sound quality too, but on further thought, that makes very little sense.

In point of fact, I listen to music on youtube all day long with an extension that prevents youtube from stopping all the time and asking if you're still watching. And with an adblocker, because the ads on youtube have gotten to insanity levels. At 144p. Sounds exactly the same as if you set it to 4k/60/hdr. What? Are they going to make it so that dynamically reduced video quality due to network/server congestion is also going to start sounding bad too?¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I am never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to pay for youtube premium, or to have 4k video as an extra fee on top of another subscription fee. I got good and sick of paying for "HD" 1080 from the cable companies for three billion years. I'm done with that. If youtube doesn't wanna do it, I'm sure that someone else will.

I will only address the sound problem. IF THE SOURCE IS LOSLESS, then what I said applies. Higher video quality also involves higher audio quality.
Later edit: Don't struggle with adblockers. Just use Brave Browser. It's ridiculously good at blocking ads straight out of the box.

Example of 4K sound youtube.com/watch?v=3ioQiA0VXdk

"See youtu.be/FjU_x1106pg?t=707"

5800H 2-7% but mostly 2-4.  I have other stuff opened that total memory is around 11Gb.
3060  25%

Minimal fans, took the sound out from video to listen.
4K on FHD screen.

I agree that no 4K will be a loss. Also as other user said will also make sound worse quality.
There are other video services that will start to be more attractive.

Some interesting misconceptions.

No, 1080 isn't "fine for most people". I have a 65" and 85" tv. 1080 with youtube compression looks like hot garbage, especially if there's fast motion like sports or action content.

You don't get a "better quality audio stream" with 4K vs 1080. Look at stats for nerds. Same exact codec, same exact audio bitrate, no matter what the video resolution is. Yeah, I intuitively thought a lower res video would have bad sound quality too, but on further thought, that makes very little sense.

In point of fact, I listen to music on youtube all day long with an extension that prevents youtube from stopping all the time and asking if you're still watching. And with an adblocker, because the ads on youtube have gotten to insanity levels. At 144p. Sounds exactly the same as if you set it to 4k/60/hdr. What? Are they going to make it so that dynamically reduced video quality due to network/server congestion is also going to start sounding bad too?¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I am never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to pay for youtube premium, or to have 4k video as an extra fee on top of another subscription fee. I got good and sick of paying for "HD" 1080 from the cable companies for three billion years. I'm done with that. If youtube doesn't wanna do it, I'm sure that someone else will.

Quote from: _MT_ on October 03, 2022, 09:37:42

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on October 03, 2022, 09:22:09Interesting how nobody mentioned yet the fact that 4K videos also get better sound encoding in most cases - as long as the source is lossless, of course. For example, I am thinking about videos with less video action, maybe even still image videos or just lyrics videos that are being uploaded in 4K just to get some extra sound quality.

That's a question of bit rate as well.

Correct.

YouTube TV already does this and that is arguably a service where 4k matters more because people watch it on large TV's.  Regular YouTube is typically watched on much smaller screens where it doesn't matter as much.

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on October 03, 2022, 09:22:09Interesting how nobody mentioned yet the fact that 4K videos also get better sound encoding in most cases - as long as the source is lossless, of course. For example, I am thinking about videos with less video action, maybe even still image videos or just lyrics videos that are being uploaded in 4K just to get some extra sound quality.

That's a question of bit rate as well.

Interesting how nobody mentioned yet the fact that 4K videos also get better sound encoding in most cases - as long as the source is lossless, of course. For example, I am thinking about videos with less video action, maybe even still image videos or just lyrics videos that are being uploaded in 4K just to get some extra sound quality.