Quote from: LL on September 08, 2022, 09:09:51NicoB people with office work and entertainment do not need 32Gb.

This laptop is not designed for entertainment with such an shameful colorspace screen. You cannot enjoy viewing photos from smartphones and videos on this garbage. Those. you are just lying or a hired Lenovo marketer. This is the first. Secondly, today in the office, if it's not some parasites kind wipe pants in office or home - real free 11-12GB ram in W10 (and lower for W11) is not enough for any professional especially with the prospect of 3+ years of use.

NicoB people with office work and entertainment do not need 32Gb.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on September 07, 2022, 08:15:41The only problem is that almost all notebooks fail in at least some of these basic aspects so one has to look around a bit, especially with an upper price limit.

The price limit is clearly defined either by the professional payback of the thing or by the satisfaction (for example, aesthetic or status) from its possession. This laptop does not initially meet any of these criteria. It is unusable as a business laptop (too low ram in dual-channel for work today). It is unusable at home as a quiet or universal(only possible with an eGPU port for gaming) solution , and even as an entry-level multimedia(no 72%+ ntsc panel) solution.


In 2022 minimum memory = 32GB (or strictly 2 memory slots expandable up to 64GB). This needs to be hammered into your head, every marketer and manager in development companies. Memory is cheap (but SSDs are EXPENSIVE, especially decent series from 2-4TB, and it makes no sense to put less in a laptop today, analysts really assure that SSD prices will drop by 30% by the end of 2022, well, we'll see. In 2018 there was a strong annoyance among people who bought SSDs in September-October, when prices for SSDs fell by 30-40% by the end of the year ...) against the backdrop of prices for laptops that their manufacturers ask us.

72%+ ntsc panel with response lower 16ms (B2W/G2G) and at least 32Gb self install must available. (16GB should be in cheaper netbooks today, not in laptops from 900$+!) is the bare minimum for a modern laptop today with a 3+ year life expectancy. Manufacturers are nastily trying to turn the laptop market (by definition for work) into a kind of smartphone market with a short tenure. This is unacceptable. And even the official authorities of the European Union are already beginning to oppose these attempts by TNCs to create a disposable world with the maximum expenditure of the planet's resources for the sake of greed and profit...

but people in the topic see that the motherboard is not riveted to the rigid maginago gangs as in a truly ThinkPad
Sorry - is stupid Google translation module. "Super A.I." by Google in 2022... ;)
Of course, it was about the the magnesium alloy base to which the motherboard is attached to avoid serious damage with severe vibration or strikes in Thinkpad series.

The author gives obviously false information (knowing about this) in the header about DDR4 4800. This simply does not happen in laptops. On board the plowed outburst, obsolete DDR4 3200, which is clearly visible from the CPU-Z report. AIDA64 tests (mem speed/Photoworxx benchmark) clearly show the most splendid RAM tuning from Lenovo engineers. The throughput of memory up to 30-35% lower than the norm for typical DDR4 3200.

The processor cores the outdated with Zen3 only, not Zen3+ architecture. With all obvious disadvantages (there is not even support for DDR5 4800+/USB40 with eGPU/HDMI 2.1 and AV1 decoders). As usual, AMD of a quiet sapa is trying to poke for us with the processor of two years ago under the guise of fresh... 6650U/6850U should be installed here, and not this is outdated garbage from AMD. But 66xx/68xx - as is clearly visible throughout the planet in a terrible deficit, and the degree of deficiency determines the real price of the goods taking into account demand...

Inside the case, it is clearly visible that for the species they put the fixing brackets on the ports (create the appearance of serious strength "like in ThinkPad). For the inhabitants, this is certainly an improvement in the subject, but people in the topic see that the motherboard is not riveted to the rigid maginago gangs as in a truly ThinkPad (not to mention at least some protective coating). The plastic housing (although Lenovo assures that it is reinforced by the best plastic in the likeness of L series).

Again, Numpad has narrowed keys in width, which is unacceptable. How completely unacceptable are narrow in height FX (the place is more than enough). Well, the author at least wrote that this keyboard is also uncomfortable tactilely. Long (especially blind professional print) on it is simply impossible. And this is called the "office" laptop? Why is he there with such a wretched keyboard?
Just like an unacceptable power supply based on the USB-C in the entrance with sticking perpendicular to the body easily broken USB-C pl.
We need the main corner round plug on the very edge as in the old line of S340 (where everything is perfect in terms of power supply from the PSU), and USB-C Power should be a backup source, and not the main and nothing else. Or there should be a priori, the corner magsafe usb-C plug, or the laptop production industry is time to change the power connector on the corner and reliable. It is clearly seen that the young growth of engineers ergonomics was clearly not taught at universities ...

+ Good webcam...
It is definitely good? And why author review then set shameful 47 points in the end, and not 90+ at least?

+ Adequate performance
Given the absence of TB4.0 of the port and the inability to connect EGPU (as in versions with Intel), if necessary, a bunch of TB4.0 iron, the decision to buy it, especially with a shameful color rendering screen will be determined exclusively by the price and nothing more. The laptop is quite noisy under serious surfing.

And the inability to expand RAM to two -channel (despite the fact that even in this mode, the ram speed is shameful for the obsolete morally DDR4 3200) 32GB clearly limits its life span in the office/work (forget about the comfortable use of VM machines, although the SoC is 6-cores with HT) and at home. It was already morally outdated, from leave the conveyor of the plant...

"Choosing the right office laptop is a fairly tricky endeavour."

Really? Basically it is straightforward: operating system for one's applications, no bugs / beta design, choose a good keyboard (and layout), touchpad according to your preference, good display (and aspect ratio), no / low noise when idle, sufficient battery life, sufficient ports for your needs, no run-away temperatures, your preferred size and weight, not too little RAM / storage, no netbook CPU, and then a solid chassis becomes luxury. The only problem is that almost all notebooks fail in at least some of these basic aspects so one has to look around a bit, especially with an upper price limit.

I wnat to buy it