Quote from: RobertJasiek on September 02, 2022, 09:41:16"have seen the prices of boards fall off a cliff"

Your responsibility as a tech journalist is not to spread the manufacturers' propaganda! The reality is that prices of core Ampere cards (3060TI, 3070, 3080 10GB) are 15 - 40% above initial MSRPs at a time briefly before 2 years after launch when prices ought to be 25% below initial MSRPs.

Nvidia, the eternal lier, promised drastically falling prices in late August 2022. We are in September and prices of core Ampere cards are higher than, or exceptionally equal to or very slightly below, those in May. Before Nvidia's recent promise, we saw EVGA 3090TI falling 43% below MSRPs in the USA. 43% below initial MSRPs of all core Ampere cards in all countries would be drastically falling prices. Everything else is just another broken promise and too late anyway.

Nvidia deserves to eat its own GPUs.

No matter how you look at it there aint no way in heaven that gamers are all going to buy macs absolutely never ever gonna happen no matter what the price of a gpu or a mac. Most windows gaming people dont have or want anything to do with apple scambags

The big story everyone is missing here (as usual) is RTX has another, more interesting competitor: Apple M, in another, completely new yet important area of demand: Stable Diffusion and other idea rendering systems.

Apple M is about ⅓ the speed of a RTX 3090 TI,

BUT!

It can access the entire system memory. 32GB, 64GB, no problem.

This matters for some tasks, meaning you can either do something or you can't, and RTX is going to look kind of low rent if it can't compete with a general purpose chip, especially if you can get an entire Mac system for the price of the card.

I'd like to see NVidia release an RTX with expandable memory, at a fair price. That would be the cool thing to do. But they're undoubtedly just going to create another high end product, with features people don't really need if they just want more memory.

As for the Ti series its probably going to be a titan if anything

Quote from: Jefff on September 03, 2022, 17:27:323. At my local Best Buy and Micro Center, every single RTX 3000 series card is below MSRP

Do they also offer various models of 3060 TI, 3070 and 3080 10 GB? How much are these, in new, sealed condition, below their initial MSRPs? In which city?

Also, what is with all of these "RTX 4xxx Ti" model articles? Launch years do not have Ti models. Nvidia has been releasing new gen series, then 12-18 months later they'll release some Ti models to pump some more sales. We'll get an RTX 4090, 4080, 4070 etc, then we'll see some Ti models in early 2024

1. These articles need to be preceded by "RUMOR" because this is all gossip
2. NVIDIA never "promised" price drops. They were planning price deals with their partners with the intention of sales to reduce inventory throughout autumn. It's still summer.
3. At my local Best Buy and Micro Center, every single RTX 3000 series card is below MSRP

I hope for nvidia and amd the worst for years 2020, 2021, 2022 what they did to people want to  buy gpu.

I agree with RobertJasiek. Unless you are an nVidia shareholder, a reporter/commenter/reviewer needs objectivity.

"have seen the prices of boards fall off a cliff"

Your responsibility as a tech journalist is not to spread the manufacturers' propaganda! The reality is that prices of core Ampere cards (3060TI, 3070, 3080 10GB) are 15 - 40% above initial MSRPs at a time briefly before 2 years after launch when prices ought to be 25% below initial MSRPs.

Nvidia, the eternal lier, promised drastically falling prices in late August 2022. We are in September and prices of core Ampere cards are higher than, or exceptionally equal to or very slightly below, those in May. Before Nvidia's recent promise, we saw EVGA 3090TI falling 43% below MSRPs in the USA. 43% below initial MSRPs of all core Ampere cards in all countries would be drastically falling prices. Everything else is just another broken promise and too late anyway.

Nvidia deserves to eat its own GPUs.