Why is this even a comparison review...it's not even similar price points or hardware. This dude is high or trolling.

So the 7700X achieves 95% of single core performance and just about 67% of multi-core performance with 8 fewer physical cores and 8 fewer threads (if I understood Intel's design right) while consuming 53% less power than the i7-13700k.

Yeah, sounds like Intel has a real winner there...  Now compare it to the 7900X. Better yet the 7950X.

I haven't bought an Intel CPU or laptop for years because of their power consumption and the moronic amount of heat they generate.

Intel seems to be paying a pretty penny for all the articles bashing AMD right now. Funny how these articles have no real spec and performance comparison.

I don't care which manufacturer outperforms the other. Do a real comparison between equivalent chips ya freaking sell-outs. 

Quote from: Rob Stan on August 26, 2022, 14:26:23NBC again with the genius input of comparing unrlesed (244W) $450-500 SKU to (allegedly) $300 one... cause both have a 7 in the name, so that must be the smart way of doing it right? LMAO

Maybe try less editorializing and more just reporting on things? Yeah, thanks.

I really have to wonder if you guys are trolling, doing it for clicks (drama = clicks) or just plain ignorant about so many things. Either way, your tech "journalism" division is garbage next to your near-stellar mobile devices reviews division.

Was looking for this comment. 50% higher price for less than 50% multithreaded perf, marginally better ST perf and much worse efficiency. This isn't even news. Lets compare the 7900x to the 13700k when the time comes. Especially since Intel is confirmed to increase pricing.

Wait. What? A 16-core Intel i7-13700K was not able to significantly outperform an 8-core Ryzen 7700X? What a shock! 😱

I was expecting it to outperform by at least 50% since it has 50% more  core and thread count. It is not that simple the comparison since E-cores are meant for specific tasks, I know, but still.

This article just raised my expectations for the upcoming Ryzen 4 desktop CPUs. Thank you 🙏

Quote from: Dopamine on August 26, 2022, 14:48:18Raptor-X (7800X3D) is out Q1 2023. I'm waiting for that, assuming prices aren't astronomical.

Raphael-X. I assume the price will fall right in the middle of the 7700X and 7900X. Could be $450 like the 5800X3D was. It will be much easier to stomach if it delivers +30% instead of +15%.

Why didn't the author mention the core difference in the article? I have heard of news sites giving Intel more praise than AMD, but this article takes that to the extreme.

Quote from: 8&8 on August 25, 2022, 15:36:09moving directly to 7800X3D no? don't understand their market decisions, showing on september 7800X that is 25% faster and january 7800X3D 30% faster than the original one. Just wait and move to 7800X3D, also because amd souldn't have fear of intel raptors, 5950X is still good enought, and people change cpu after 3/5 years. competition is good, but consumist is the killer of human genre!!!

Raptor-X (7800X3D) is out Q1 2023. I'm waiting for that, assuming prices aren't astronomical.

NBC again with the genius input of comparing unrlesed (244W) $450-500 SKU to (allegedly) $300 one... cause both have a 7 in the name, so that must be the smart way of doing it right? LMAO

Maybe try less editorializing and more just reporting on things? Yeah, thanks.

I really have to wonder if you guys are trolling, doing it for clicks (drama = clicks) or just plain ignorant about so many things. Either way, your tech "journalism" division is garbage next to your near-stellar mobile devices reviews division.

Im sorry, am i missing something?

Isnt Ryzen 7700x an 8 core cpu and Intel 13700k a 16 core cpu?

Doesn't matter much, consumer should consider everything like cost, power draw , platform (motherboard, Ram etc .) A lot will depend on amd cpu & MB prices. I think even with lower single core amd may have advantage in gaming. Adl had a lot more ST perf. But didn't always win against zen3.

What a strange comparison to make. The 13700k has more threads and cost more money.   Why would you expect the 7700k to match it in multithreading? 

moving directly to 7800X3D no? don't understand their market decisions, showing on september 7800X that is 25% faster and january 7800X3D 30% faster than the original one. Just wait and move to 7800X3D, also because amd souldn't have fear of intel raptors, 5950X is still good enought, and people change cpu after 3/5 years. competition is good, but consumist is the killer of human genre!!!

I don't like where thing's are going with power consumption, I will go with whatever is most cost efficient.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on August 25, 2022, 05:40:41Comparisons should not be so simple. There are applications for which only the P cores matter so such comparisons should also be made.

If the number of threads is small, the problem is resolved by Thread Director. If number of thread is increased and SMT is required, the computing resources allocated to each thread will be almost the same for P and E cores. Only in the case of exactly 7 or 8 threads would there be a difference, but such cases are rare.

Quote from: hs4 on August 25, 2022, 04:41:02The 7700x is an 8-core system and should be compared to the 13600K with 6 P-cores and 2 clusters of E-cores,

Comparisons should not be so simple. There are applications for which only the P cores matter so such comparisons should also be made.