This is not a circuit run, this is half an economy run, i.e. a consumption run. In a number of places, most flagrantly at 1:19 before the famous Schwedenkreuz, Kern lets off the gas and lets the car coast without braking or anything. It just drives, as if in neutral, for a few seconds, hundreds of meters (in 1:19 it's about 3 seconds at a speed of over 250 km/h, that's over 200 meters), round and round. This is not circuit driving, there is either acceleration or braking, the space for neutral driving is only around the apex of the turn, nowhere else.

This is exactly what we saw in Tesla's attempt and we thought it was due to the brake limit, as it is very difficult to fully decelerate a 2.5 tonne car from high speeds all round and the Model S Plaid used only conventional steel brakes at the time. However, the Taycan Turbo S has carbon-ceramic as standard, which, although it also has its limits, would not force such a style. As an acquaintance who works on the development of electric cars told us, this is the limit of the electric drive, which even in the case of the Taycan Turbo S would not last the entire cycle and overheated. That's why Kern (just like his predecessor behind the wheel of Tesla) had to find places where he could relieve himself with as little loss of time as possible.

What on earth is this? We can't imagine that at any time in the past Porsche would have been willing to boast about something like this.

The Nurburgring Nordschleife is actually a toll road - admittedly when they ran this Taycan Turbo S run it was closed to the public - but for all intensive purposes anyone can drive there w/any road legal vehicle for a small fee.

Quote from: Enrico Frahn on August 11, 2022, 01:21:39

Quote from: PolCPP on August 11, 2022, 00:09:032 seconds can be a lot. If you extrapolate the distance traveled to the equivalent of a F1 race (and imagine the pit stops would take the exact same time) it would give you a 25-30 second difference.

Hey PolCPP,
you're absolutely right, two seconds per lap make a world of difference in F1. But in these slower sports cars that need seven and a half minutes for one lap at the Nordschleife, two seconds is considered a very slim margin.

Seven minutes and 33.3 seconds on the 12.9 mile track means average speed of 165 kmh, which means 90 meters distance for 2 seconds. That's based on the average speed, but because of higher speed through the finish line it was likely more like 150m difference. Not a slim margin at all!

Quote from: PolCPP on August 11, 2022, 00:09:032 seconds can be a lot. If you extrapolate the distance traveled to the equivalent of a F1 race (and imagine the pit stops would take the exact same time) it would give you a 25-30 second difference.

Hey PolCPP,
you're absolutely right, two seconds per lap make a world of difference in F1. But in these slower sports cars that need seven and a half minutes for one lap at the Nordschleife, two seconds is considered a very slim margin.

2 seconds can be a lot. If you extrapolate the distance traveled to the equivalent of a F1 race (and imagine the pit stops would take the exact same time) it would give you a 25-30 second difference.