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Posted by Ednumero
 - May 16, 2022, 02:35:46
> Huawei Matebooks

Interesting evaluation. I do like that they have a number of 3:2 and >60Hz refresh rate options. Not all their models are ideal in that regard, but having the options is key.

On a tangential note, I'm still waiting for them to refresh their MateView 3:2 monitor with, perhaps, 90Hz and ports fast enough to handle it. *That* monitor is so close to perfect for me from an external/desktop POV, but they dropped the ball on it with DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 2.0, and 60Hz.
Posted by Hunter2020
 - May 15, 2022, 17:23:27
You guys dont find any Huawei Matebooks using OLEDs because theyre not ready for prime time.  I always use Huawei laptops to gauge whether particular display  techs are suitable to consume.  Huawei has the best engineers in the world.  Thats Y theyre leading the race in 5G.  When Huawei engineers finally adopt a display better than IPS for their notebooks, I will be there with my wallet fully opened...
Posted by Vit Adamek
 - May 15, 2022, 10:18:56
Yep, the 2.8k Oled in Asus Vivobook Pro is stunning. Deep blacks in any content etc. The only drawback is that is glossy and the reflections can be distracting at times. Perhaps this can be partially rectified by use of matte screen protector.
Posted by IG Pro
 - May 15, 2022, 09:49:39
Quote from: kek on May 14, 2022, 23:28:57
Quote from: IG Pro on May 14, 2022, 11:50:39
Looks like Asus is on bad terms with this site, they refuse to review the Vivobook Pro 14 series.

It uses PWM either way, so they are saving us time by not reviewing it.

50% brightness is too high on a OLED screen and its a waste of energy, too.

And talking about energy, OLED still use a lot of power compared to the best LCD screens out there.
It oscillates in brightness slightly above 100 nits (As does almost any HDR tv on the market, yes even IPS or VA panels), but doesn't use PWM above this brightness. I used to be an advocate against PWM too, but this panel has 0 eye fatigue, quite the contrary actually. Also it can do 600 nits in HDR, 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut, is a native 10-bit panel, has a 16:10 aspect ratio, has 2880x1800 resolution and that at 90HZ refresh rate. For gaming and content creation there is no better laptop panel currently out on the market and it's a shame this laptop has not gotten the attention it deserved. Notebookcheck has been brushing this model un the rug for too long now. Not only that, their Zenbook 14X review was described as having just 3790:1 contrast which is incredibly false (But no PWM above 50% brightness)

I used to own the Asus Vivobook Pro 14 M3401 with a 2560x1600 60HZ IPS panel, and I can tell you that the battery life is not so different from that model. But what is different is the rest of the specs I listed above, and as PWM is a thing of the past your arguments against OLED are a thing of the past. But keep advocating against OLED on laptops, that way prices of them stay cheap and I can keep upgrading my system with the superior tech.
Posted by kek
 - May 14, 2022, 23:28:57
Quote from: IG Pro on May 14, 2022, 11:50:39
Looks like Asus is on bad terms with this site, they refuse to review the Vivobook Pro 14 series.

It uses PWM either way, so they are saving us time by not reviewing it.

50% brightness is too high on a OLED screen and its a waste of energy, too.

And talking about energy, OLED still use a lot of power compared to the best LCD screens out there.
Posted by Hunter2020
 - May 14, 2022, 19:31:53
OLED tech is the suck.  So long as they use PWM to dim the screen, they're no better than the TN CCFL/LED screens of old which all use PWM dimming!
Posted by IG Pro
 - May 14, 2022, 11:50:39
Looks like Asus is on bad terms with this site, they refuse to review the Vivobook Pro 14 series.
Posted by Vit Adamek
 - May 14, 2022, 11:43:28
"Razer's recent announcement of a 15.6-inch 240 Hz OLED panel is notable as all OLED laptop panels thus far have been limited to 60 Hz."

Not true, my 2.8k Oled in Asus Vivibook Pro (2021 model?) has 90hz screen.
Posted by IG Pro
 - May 14, 2022, 11:41:27
Notebookcheck hates the Asus Vivobook Pro 14X with the 2880x1800 90HZ oled screens. Not only haven't they reviewed them, but the panel doesn't have pwm from 50-100% brightness. Furthermore, the RTX 3050TI they got is powerful enough for e-sports titles.
Posted by Ednumero
 - May 14, 2022, 10:09:52
> Are we finally getting the ultimate panel for both gaming and professional editing?

It's so close! Would be better if it were 2560x1600 than the 2560x1440 it is, but it's so close to perfect within today's comsumer-affordable tech. Just needs those extra 160 rows.

Also, I would be mildly curious whether its subpixel matrix has the subdivisions shown in this article thumbnail, or if they're contiguous like in higher-PPI OLEDs. So far I've only seen subdivisions like that in 15.6" 1920x1080 OLEDs.

EDIT: Also needs to improve the PWM situation, power consumption, and to my understanding longevity before I could consider it perfect.
Posted by Redaktion
 - May 14, 2022, 05:50:34
Are we finally getting the ultimate panel for both gaming and professional editing? The upcoming 240 Hz OLED display seemingly checks off every box on the list to finally supersede IPS, but we still have our concerns about flickering when on lower brightness levels.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Why-the-Razer-Blade-15-240-Hz-OLED-display-could-be-a-game-changer-for-gaming-laptops.619538.0.html