Can't believe how many braindead Dell simps are in the comments. Most of you morons even think the comparisons have been made against a macbook pro, whilst they're all about the MBA.

Also MBA has 999 starting price and can get even cheaper in reality. This dell's base model starts at 1300 and at configuration the m1 beats the dell hands down in every aspect.

The 1280 cpu model reviewers have been using isn't even available and costs over 2k . If not nearing the 3k mark.

This computer doesn't have a visible trackpad, and it has capacitive keys where there is no need or benefit.  How powerful a computer is doesn't matter if it's hard to use. That is why I don't own one of these fancy new M Powered Macbooks. Apple refuses to install a touchscreen, which I use a lot as a programmer and data scientist. Every laptop buyer makes use of a trackpad. For that reason alone, the Mac is better.

Quote from: sheshirdzhija on May 02, 2022, 12:20:57That is simply not true.
Let's say I need to buy a laptop NOW. I don't really care when was it 1st released and how old is the SOC. I just care about the end result.

Let's not forget pricing, shall we. One is much cheaper than the other, probably because it's a much older model. How much exits their walled is an "end result" most costumers care about -- and in that regard, *very surprisingly*, the M1 in a macbook air does appear to be magic.

Quote from: Consumer on May 01, 2022, 12:38:05
I kind of agree with NBC here. The fact that Apple still sells this laptop isn't all that important. If you're even considering the 1st gen Macbook in May 2022, you obviously don't care that much about performance and are buying it for other reasons. It's the YouTube video that went full clickbait first.

That is simply not true.
Let's say I need to buy a laptop NOW. I don't really care when was it 1st released and how old is the SOC. I just care about the end result.

YT video is simply to paint a picture that M1 is not all THAT magical. It's still ahead of everyone else by some margin (in efficiency, and specific workloads), but it's not magic.

1280p - is it even available to buy?

Can only see 1260p which has c10k single core

This article makes no sense:

- at a screen 13.4" and much lower res, if we match the MBP screen, RAM, etc, the XPS 13 Plus would be comparable to the MBP M1 14" M1 Pro.

- the MBP M1 / M1 Pro has a faster CPU/GPU and much longer battery life

People that will buy a MBP (prefer Mac OS / Multimedia Apps) have different needs than the ones that buys Dell (corporative that want Windows / Linux).

I have myself a Mac Mini M1 (my first Mac and Mac OS) and I love the smoothness, the hardware is top!!! But Mac OS is *much* inferior to Windows 11 (I have 2 PCs with Windows 11 -upgraded from W10-). Small easy tasks on W11 are a nightmare on Mac OS:

- screen record with sound (Mac OS needs external app)
- cut / paste without keyboard (Mac OS needs keyboard)
- file management is an horror on Mac OS (no copy speed, no easy rename)
- window management (Mac OS is an absolute failure. I had to buy the fantastic "magnet" app which should be on the OS itself)
- etc. etc. etc.

So I am happy with my Mac Mini M1 because most multimedia apps are better than the Windows ones and it is the reason I bought it. But unless Mac OS becomes an overhaul, I won´t buy a Mac again. Needless to say, the *OS* was also the reason why I never bought an iPhone / iPad anymore. Clearly Apple´s *hardware* team is much much more advanced than the software *decision* team (clearly the software team is fantastic, but not the chiefs who makes the decisions).

I hope Dell also decides to put some AMD 7000-series CPUs with RDNA2 GPUs, I am betting that they are at Intel level or better.

Even though the new 14" is well 14" that should have been the comparison

It doesn't even matter, because that Dell will be dead within 2 to 3 years and the MacBook Pro will still run like new. 

I guess it was fair to compare the M1 with more powerful mobile or even  desktop AMD/Intel CPUs , in the past two years or so. But now it's not anymore.

1. Nobody argued about M1's efficiency.
2. Apple uses a different architecture and has a different release cycle for their products. It's not an apples to apples comparison.
3. Gone are the days when NBC provided us with quality and accurate content. Just look at the click baits, check the quality of their the reviews, the testing methodology and the rating. And then we can talk about Dave's bias towards Dell or whatnot. In the meantime, I'd rather trust Dave than taking these NBC articles for serious.
4. Attention seeker, is it? Up your game and drop the arrogance, NBC. It's 2022.

Quote from: Whypostthis on May 01, 2022, 07:10:16
Why is the comparison unfair? Apple is still selling the 13" M1 MacBook Pro as new with a starting price of $1300. Form-factor is the same. Price is the same. Dell is just giving way better value for your dollar. It's not an unfair comparison. Maybe apple should update their products more often.

$1300 is the entry level Dell with low-DPI display and the i5-1240P. If you want the fast CPU version and the good display, it's basically in the same ballpark as the 14" MBP.  I think it's a bit weird to benchmark the $1900 Dell and then praise it on the ground that's it's faster than the $1300 Mac in a benchmark that maximally favors Intel.

I kind of agree with NBC here. The fact that Apple still sells this laptop isn't all that important. If you're even considering the 1st gen Macbook in May 2022, you obviously don't care that much about performance and are buying it for other reasons. It's the YouTube video that went full clickbait first.

Quote from: hhhhhhh on April 30, 2022, 23:34:24
and how is it the reviewer fault that apple in 2022 offers 13" with an 2020 CPU? this arrticle is sad.

Should compare the newest chipsets released for 2022 and compare to the closest chassis. Dell XPS 13 Plus or Alienware X14 should be compared to MacBook Pro 14". Either way it's still a bit unfair b/c Intel is not on the same "nm" size processor therefore it's at a disadvantage. These are laptops, try comparing running only on battery and see which one comes out top. Whomever wins...wins. Doesn't matter if it's Apple or Dell. XPS are also nice machines as are Apple MacBooks.

Well, we will see if Dell can solve overheating, this is stumblick block of older models. And that is where M1 shines, no fans and still temperature won't rise over 40C. And of coarse battery life of 20h is impressive. Problem for Dell is temperature and loud fans. Performance on paper is bottlenecked by cooling. And don't forget that M2 is due this year.

Quote from: Whypostthis on May 01, 2022, 07:10:16
Why is the comparison unfair? Apple is still selling the 13" M1 MacBook Pro as new with a starting price of $1300. Form-factor is the same. Price is the same. Dell is just giving way better value for your dollar. It's not an unfair comparison. Maybe apple should update their products more often.

Exactly, or at least simply lower their price after a while.

How much did apple pay u guys . How is this unfair both are slim 13'' laptop. For price compare similar ram & storage options. This Dave did a perfect job unlike you guys.