It's like a 1660, very good for 199$. Point is that today people are used to consider 200 watt cards and make stupid comparisons. It's a good 1080p solution, like the Xbox Series S.

The GPU WAS designed for laptops.  Techtube / techtwitter has been saying so for quite some time. 

They should have lowered the price or called it lite. 6GB VRAM would have been better budget card.

I agree that the labelling could have been better but my take is it is not the strongest card, and it's not meant to be. Currently for $199 you can't even buy a 1050ti (Microcenter has had some new ones on stock lately).  Since it's an upgrade from the 1050ti, I say, it's a good deal IF IT FITS YOUR USE REQUIREMENT. 

If it doesn't fit your use requirement, save up 3x the amount.

I feel like they should've made it the 6500 non XT to make the lack of performance more clear. Also, it's not "nearly impossible" to get at MSRP. I've already had several opportunities to buy one for $199 but I'm not interested.

It's obviously true, explaining several of the design decisions. Except putting 4 GB VRAM which is desktop specific and foils mining.

Quote from: LL on January 22, 2022, 19:59:14
I don't get it, why would anyone want it over an APU?

Because it's faster than the fastest Rembrandt and mobile Xe?

if they just called it the 6500 Lite,  or NB fore notebook, or something. I think peoples criticisms would be less harsh. Because they'd recognize its just a placeholder laptop gpu, being made available on desktop to help with shortages.

But they positioned it as the upgrade to the 5500 and priced it too high. Presumably they didnt want people to know they were doing a big portable push, but its stil very lame and deceptive of them.

Not sure about other markets, but in UK it's in stock from most retailers for about 220-230 pounds

I don't get it, why would anyone want it over an APU?

In what world is the 6500XT going for 3x to 4x the MSRP? You can get a 6600 XT for 3x the MSRP of the 6500XT and a 6700XT for 4x the MSRP of the 6500XT. It is going for 1.5-2x the MSRP. Still a lot but nowhere near the exaggeration you suggest here.